mtnkid85
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Ohhh, I get it now. Thank you.
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A pity vote. Brother! That's democracy in inaction. Almost as stupid as straight party voting.... When we asked the senator why she voted that way, her response was that she felt bad for the sponsor.
I had to drink an extra 4 portions of bourbon that day.
YES!!! It’s those vile cattlemen running beef on BLM and FS pushing for this bill. Get out the pitchforks and torches.Perhaps the public should voice keep the fu(%ing cattle off of public lands. Seperate from private all together. No tax money from the public to the good old boys. Perhaps blm forest service fwp should manage the public for the public. Forget the private. Keep it. But pass laws to benifit tax payers and not millionaires who get welfare
YES!!! It’s those vile cattlemen running beef on BLM and FS pushing for this bill. Get out the pitchforks and torches.Perhaps the public should voice keep the fu(%ing cattle off of public lands. Seperate from private all together. No tax money from the public to the good old boys. Perhaps blm forest service fwp should manage the public for the public. Forget the private. Keep it. But pass laws to benifit tax payers and not millionaires who get welfare
liberals tend to do everything based on emotion/feelings/ideas. This is why it’s impossible to argue with themA pity vote. Brother! That's democracy in inaction. Almost as stupid as straight party voting.
This statement is as dumb as it would be for me to say every outfitter breaks the law.liberals tend to do everything based on emotion/feelings/ideas. This is why it’s impossible to argue with them
Me sniffs the true identity.This statement is as dumb as it would be for me to say every outfitter breaks the law.
This is true. It’s also proof that the Republican Party of MT has been overtaken by hardcore liberals who can’t look past their biases, individual ideologies, and “I want the world to run my way”emotions to pass legislation that fixes problems instead of just benefiting their donors.liberals tend to do everything based on emotion/feelings/ideas. This is why it’s impossible to argue with them
No argument from me on this.This is true. It’s also proof that the Republican Party of MT has been overtaken by hardcore liberals who can’t look past their biases, individual ideologies, and “I want the world to run my way”emotions to pass legislation that fixes problems instead of just benefiting their donors.
“Conservative ” is not an adjective that the sponsors of several of these bills can claim as their political identity.
The easiest one that comes to mind is giving bison “free roaming” status.Eric albus you are the one that has stated several times in multiple threads that the public is always trying to ram things down landowners/throats. I see it as the opposite. Never seen bills or laws making ranchers/landowners do anything for the public. Its always more for the private. With such terrible bills trying to be past in favor of landowners/ranchers, its simple the public should spearhead targeting grazing on public and tax money to millionaire ranchers/landowners. Level the playing field.
I a trump guy but didnt vote for GG. Seen all this bs coming.
That is a BS mythical red herring consistently hollered up to create a fear of bison ruination of private lands. No matter what bison as wildlife or "free roaming" status, there will never be bison roaming rampant on private lands. Even on public tracts such as National Bison Range, and others, they are constrained. Bison "free roam" on the Flying D pastures and the problems for neighboring private lands, many with wheat, barley, and other crops are negligible. So your easiest example is a farce.... giving bison “free roaming” status.
The APR does have free roaming bison, albeit not "free" to roam neighbors' lands. Tell us about the problems which ensued.Tell everyone who borders the APR that it’s a farce, especially when just a few years ago FWP was all for letting the APR have free roaming bison.
Not the case with the thousands of bison on the Flying D and Snowcrest Ranches.Had a neighbor who had less than a dozen bison one time. He never could keep them on his side of the fence. Didn't have any issues with raping bulls, but crop damage and destroyed fences was the norm. He finally got tired of trying to chase them down and got rid of them.
False; no expensive tactics. A good effective fencing system (albeit fences in certain areas are higher than standard) and natural rotation of herds to various very large areas keep the bison on good feed and content critters.I haven't been around Turner's operations so this is just a guess that he has near 24/7 surveillance and other expensive tactics to keep his bison on his property. If your are a billionaire and can afford this you can be a serious bison rancher.
Tell everyone who borders the APR that it’s a farce, especially when just a few years ago FWP was all for letting the APR have free roaming bison.
I have to agree. Anyone who drives Hwy 93 south to Missoula can take a gander at the fences on the National Bison Range at Moise. As I recall they have good fences but not anything extraordinary.False; no expensive tactics. A good effective fencing system (albeit fences in certain areas are higher than standard) and natural rotation of herds to various very large areas keep the bison on good feed and content critters.
It seems the false narrative is of bison herds stampeding across the prairie, trampling everything in their way. The containment, pasturing, and behavior is really no different from cattle. After all, they both are bovine. Do you hear of neighbors of cattle ranches wringing their hands and worrying about angus or Hereford bulls being a scourge of the prairie?
The bison paranoia is a farce.