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[Carnage2011]

The Job Market Is Frozen

Unemployment is low, but workers aren’t quitting and businesses aren’t hiring. What’s going on?

www.theatlantic.com

The job market for these fired federal workers might not be a promising as some here seem to think.

If they are valuable, work hard and show up on time, they’ll have a job. The majority of the work force can’t do those three things.

 

[dranrab]

I guess the difference is I actually work on GAOA funded projects so I know what the funding was intended to address. There is no interpretation, the goal was pretty clear.

Plug your intimate knowledge into the question if you don't mind?

 

[dranrab]

A cursory internet search will also show the Supreme court decision on the social media case. Might want to check into it.

I am aware of the decision. Are we all in the "if it's not illegal, it's okay" camp?

 

[noharleyyet]

I love the gold card idea. I am sure there is down side to consider and comment. However, I hope we sell a million Gold cards at $5M. Heck the guys in charge the last for years let them in for free, gave them plane tickets to the big cities and housed them in posh hotels all on the tax payers dime. Scary when someone in such deep debt just keeps giving money away and free spending. This seems like a good idea to bring revenue in to help pay down the debt!

 

[SAJ-99]

I am aware of the decision. Are we all in the "if it's not illegal, it's okay" camp?

Pretty much. No one should be allowed to determine your or anyone else's ethical or moral values, so we have the law. I would like for blatant lies that could hurt people not be allowed on social media. Core problem is a large % of Americans are dumb and lazy. Can't fix that.

 

[dranrab]

Pretty much. No one should be allowed to determine your or anyone else's ethical or moral values, so we have the law. I would like for blatant lies that could hurt people not be allowed on social media. Core problem is a large % of Americans are dumb and lazy. Can't fix that.

So, Trump mass firing probationary employees is okay! In some cases it was the blatant truth that the DOJ coerced social media to strike down.

 

[BigHornRam]

I just want to see what the FBI Honeypots look like.

 

[Gr8bawana]

I love the gold card idea. I am sure there is down side to consider and comment. However, I hope we sell a million Gold cards at $5M. Heck the guys in charge the last for years let them in for free, gave them plane tickets to the big cities and housed them in posh hotels all on the tax payers dime. Scary when someone in such deep debt just keeps giving money away and free spending. This seems like a good idea to bring revenue in to help pay down the debt!

Wow! I'll give you one guess on who's pocket that $$ would go into.

 

[SAJ-99]

So, Trump mass firing probationary employees is okay! In some cases it was the blatant truth that the DOJ coerced social media to strike down.

Apparently it is legal. You seem fine with it.

The articles say considering??? No promise yet. Cant wait to get one and use the funds hunting trip related

My bad on the use of the word promise. Should have know the word police would catch that. Doesn't change the point though. When the public pushback on something starts to get too large, he says he might give us all money. He is looking at all the people with flexible ethical values. You know, the ones with posts that are along the lines of "I feel sorry for those that lost their jobs...but the deficit". The idea is just stupid, but it worked, particularly on those that might get $5000 and don't pay jack for federal taxes.

 

[sclancy27]

Maybe for official approved trail clearing chainsaws should be allowed in the wilderness to save time and labor?? What is the down side?

I'm not disagreeing, I think in certain instances sure. Blanket, no.

Regardless, you would have to have Congress pass an amendment to that law which would mean they have to do their jobs which the don't.

 

[sclancy27]

Plug your intimate knowledge into the question if you don't mind?

GAOA was passed to address maintenance needs, specifically deferred maintenance. This means the funding can only be used on maintaining recreation sites, roads, etc. We can not do capital improvements on current assets, only maintain assets.

It can be used to fund labor that is essential to that maintenance, for instance, an engineers time for designing and overseeing road work or an equipment operators time for operating the grader/backhoe/etc. In addition to this labor we can find limited material or services (think survey equipment).

To my knowledge any other use is prohibited. It was a good funding source, with good side walls, passed during Trump's first term.

 

[Nick87]

majority of the work force can’t do those three things.

I'm always amazed at the amount of people I here say that. Not saying it's not true, I believe you. Just don't see it much personally.

 

[cgasner1]

Wow! I'll give you one guess on who's pocket that $$ would go into.

Maybe check out the EB-5 program it’s been around since 92?

 

[406dn]

I'm always amazed at the amount of people I here say that. Not saying it's not true, I believe you. Just don't see it much personally.

That's because it is not true. Our economy would not function if "the majority" of us could not do those things.

An observation from living 70+ years, most of the time when a business says it can't find decent workers, it is because it is a lousy place to work, for one or more reasons.

it might be poor pay, poor schedule, poor work culture, yada, yada. Employers are no different that employees, in that they have to compete for their slice of the pie.

Those that end up with the least desirable employees, it is because of the desirability of the jobs offered. Some employers make that choice for business reasons. Some want better employees but are too cheap or hard to work for, to attract or retain good employees. Rather than consider their part, they like to denigrate workers, generally.

 

[Nick87]

That's because it is not true. Our economy would not function if "the majority" of us could not do those things.

An observation from living 70+ years, most of the time when a business says it can't find decent workers, it is because it is a lousy place to work, for one or more reasons.

it might be poor pay, poor schedule, poor work culture, yada, yada. Employers are no different that employees, in that they have to compete for their slice of the pie.

Those that end up with the least desirable employees, it is because of the desirability of the jobs offered. Some employers make that choice for business reasons. Some want better employees but are too cheap or hard to work for, to attract or retain good employees. Rather than consider their part, they like to denigrate workers, generally.

Maybe, I also work with a ton of guys who bitch about money. Then avoid working OT on Saturday like its the plague. They all show up on time and and are very talented. Getting them to do anything extra is a different story. (Not extra for nothing, extra for extra pay).

 

[Big Fin]

Was the Great American Outdoors Act a back door route for Trump to achieve his privatization goals?

That's a good question, and one we are about to find out the answer to in the next year.

The GAOA provide permanent and full funding of the Land and Water Conservation Fund, LWCF. Those are off-shore oil & gas royalties that fund LWCF.

In addition to the post by @sclancy27 about maintenance uses of LWCF, a portion of LWCF is supposed to be used to increase access and consolidation of inholdings. The list for acquisitions for increasing critical access and consolidation of inholdings has already be approved for 2024, just waiting for Congressional appropriation, something that is supposed to happen before the end of the Federal Fiscal Year of September 30. Since Congress hasn't been able to pass a budget within the appropriate time frames, the Federal Government runs off "continuing resolutions," crafted from a fiscal crisis a few hours before the Federal Government shuts down.

So, with the list approved, the money already collected and earmarked, guess what Senator Lee, R-UT, Chair of the Senate Natural Resources and Energy Committee has announced?

He will not approve any budget that includes the "acquisition" projects approved and waiting funding.

End result is we think we have a big victory with the passage of the GAOA. Then someone gives the keys to the public land house to Mike Lee, the biggest anti-public land zealot of all 535 members of Congress. Nobody is will to say boo, shit, or maybe to him. Rather, they give him some rah rah "atta boys."

The list attached hereto is likely not going to get funded. If some Senators push hard enough, the projects in their states might get funded. So rather than govern, Mike Lee gets to gum up the entire works of the GAOA and we will lose all these projects as the owners have private groups standing by with checkbooks ready to act if the Federal funding falls through..

And some of us have to clear our calendars to go to DC for a week to try convince some of the western Senators to push back on Lee. Whether or not they will is anybody's guess. If they won't push back, the GAOA is all for naught; it becomes a joke, another victim of the political bullshit, and further confirmation to my theory that the Republican Party's efforts to liquidate our public lands is the same as the Democratic Party's effort to take my guns. No difference, just two different sides of the elected officials who want to bullshit us and ask us to not hold them accountable for their dereliction of duty.

Fortunately, one of those two important issues has a 2nd Amendment, the Constitution, and the Courts as my defense. The other issue is left to the citizens to fight off the well-funded privateers, a struggle that is has the Congressional sympathizers like Mike Lee in the corner of the anti-public land movement.

Attached is the list if anyone wants to see the projects, years in the making, going down the tubes if none of the Republican senators are willing to stand up to Mike Lee. Total is 206,000 acres, either via purchase or easements, that would solve a lot of access and inholding problems, for $185 million, or 20% of the total money collected and earmarked for LWCF under the GAOA.

So to answer the question quoted above, "We're gonna soon find out if the Great American Outdoors Act was a back door route for Trump to achieve his privatization goals?" And right now, Mike Lee and the anti-public land sympathizers in Congress hold are hell bent on making the answer to that question be, "YES."

 

[Big Fin]

For those not wanting to download the PDF, here are screen shots of all of them.

 

[Big Fin]

The last half of them.

 

[Gulf of America]

The last half of them.

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Some significant Montana projects in there. Do you have any indication from Montana's congressional delegates and senators on whether they intend to apply any pressure on this?

 

[NDGuy]

I love the gold card idea. I am sure there is down side to consider and comment. However, I hope we sell a million Gold cards at $5M. Heck the guys in charge the last for years let them in for free, gave them plane tickets to the big cities and housed them in posh hotels all on the tax payers dime. Scary when someone in such deep debt just keeps giving money away and free spending. This seems like a good idea to bring revenue in to help pay down the debt!

It's been in place since the 90s they just upped it to 5 million instead of 1 million and took away the requirement it had to be used to invest in a US business.
Sources below

Gold Card (residence permit) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org