Reintroduced CO Wolves

[more_cowbell]

ODFW kills wolves on a regular basis.

Yes, certainly a regular basis these days. A long list of limited duration kill orders and "removals" after successive depredation and nonlethal hazing. One reason why more packs may be killing more grazing stock, is due to the lack of other food sources.

 

[cedahm]

Also correct me if I’m wrong but north park is not anywhere near the release site right? I doubt they would want those wolves anywhere near that Wyoming border

There were already confirmed pre-reintro wolves in North Park (3 of them already were legally killed in WY)

North Park wolves recollared for tracking

Two wolves caught together near North Park were tranquilized and collared for tracking.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Hyhunter]

Those north park wolves, one with a tracker in particular, were already identified by cpw as atleast killing or injuring 13 cattle, 5 dogs, and 3 sheep. A rancher petitioned cpw to kill the one who was to blame for 7 cattle on his farm, Dec 22nd they denied it. The precedent is pretty set in colorado as far as ranching damage it seems. That's pretty egregious for a migrated in wolf that's only been here a short time.

But to be clear I can't find their reasoning for denying the request. So don't know much else of the background.

 

[Westelker]

You saw the pack of woofs in Park County - yes? Video proof! (I jest - in good fun)

Where in Park County did you take the video?

 

[Sytes]

Where in Park County did you take the video?

It was a humor post. This was an original suspected pack of wolves that CPW later determined was a few Saint Bernards that broke free of their detention facility to frame wolves...

 

[Wild Bill]

 

[Westelker]

It was a humor post. This was an original suspected pack of wolves that CPW later determined was a few Saint Bernards that broke free of their detention facility to frame wolves...

Thank God.

 

[Dsnow9]

 

[TOGIE]

definitely a misleading map, which is done on purpose. but it does give a somewhat usable general idea of where they're wandering, sorta.

 

[Dsnow9]

definitely a misleading map, which is done on purpose. but it does give a somewhat usable general idea of where they're wandering, sorta.

It’s a watershed map. Means they have been in that drainage

 

[TOGIE]

It’s a watershed map. Means they have been in that drainage

means they have stepped foot in that drainage. even if only as far as the minimum accuracy of the gps collar would show they stepped foot in one.

as they noted as an example - no wolves have been south of i70, but since they stepped foot in a drainage that goes south of i70, it's highlighted.

taken to the extreme, a map of the united states could highlight the entire state of colorado as having wolves in them, because there are 12 wolves in and around grand county.

 

[TOGIE]

It's honestly not that tough of a map to understand. Maybe a tad misleading but then again if we all had biologist mind and "super good map maker" minds then it wouldn't be misleading at all. Folks at cpw just shaking their head reading the comments on that post

it's not that it's tough to understand, it's just that it really doesn't tell you anything. the map leads you to believe there are wolves where they haven't even been yet and funny enough that was explicitly stated by CPW in their press release. so then if the map leads one to believe there are wolves where they actually have no documentation of them having been, it's misleading and doesn't actually tell me much.

my first thought when i saw that map is "oh shit, wolves are gonna start getting shot in wyoming like, tonight, or tomorrow"

then you realize the map leads you to believe they have gotten much closer to the border than they might actually have been as they likely just stepped foot in the southern portion of a watershed that reaches far north and therefore the whole watershed got highlighted.

we also don't know what watershed level they are highlighting. the HUCs can be pretty granular, or not so granular, depending on what level or "localness" of the watersheds they chose to map.

 

[marksjeep]

HUC10

Colorado Parks and Wildlife

Colorado Parks and Wildlife is a nationally recognized leader in conservation, outdoor recreation and wildlife management. The agency manages 42 state parks, all of Colorado's wildlife, more than 300 state wildlife areas and a host of recreational programs. CPW issues hunting and fishing...

cpw.state.co.us

 

[mtmiller]

Looks like HUC 10 from legend

edit....got me Mark hhahaa

 

[TOGIE]

HUC10

Colorado Parks and Wildlife

Colorado Parks and Wildlife is a nationally recognized leader in conservation, outdoor recreation and wildlife management. The agency manages 42 state parks, all of Colorado's wildlife, more than 300 state wildlife areas and a host of recreational programs. CPW issues hunting and fishing...

cpw.state.co.us

ah. see, if they did 12 it might be a somewhat meaningful map. but then that would actually tell us with more certainty where the wolves actually are, and then, oopsie

edit: i apologize for not looking closely everybody

 

[marksjeep]

I'm kind of surprised they are releasing "location" info at all.

Related read from this morning...

https://coloradosun.com/2024/01/24/...vene-for-ranchers-losing-livestock-to-wolves/

 

[Dsnow9]

I'm kind of surprised they are releasing "location" info at all.

Related read from this morning...

https://coloradosun.com/2024/01/24/...vene-for-ranchers-losing-livestock-to-wolves/

The secret release area wasn’t very secret. Better to release the map they did than have a bunch of people looking for wolves in the area they were released. That’s a huge chunk of land. Says they will keep updating though

 

[Westelker]

Jj

View attachment 312308

Just read the article. I don't have much more to comment on!

 

[elkduds]

I wonder what kind of direction CPW is getting from Polis RE avoiding authorizing lethal means.

No I don't.

 

[Dsnow9]

This months map