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Plum Creek says sale of 300,000 acres nears fruition
By TRISTAN SCOTT of the Missoulian



BONNER - Plum Creek Timber Co. says it is on the brink of selling about 300,000 acres of its woodsy Montana parcels for cherished public land use - such as hunting, hiking and fishing.

Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., together with a timber company executive and representatives from a pair of conservation groups, announced a blueprint for the land deal Friday afternoon during a rain-soaked news conference on the banks of the Blackfoot River near here.

The lands, which ultimately would be owned by federal and state governments, also would be managed as “working forests” with sustainable timber harvests.


“We are on the verge of protecting 300,000 acres of land in our state . . . and accomplishing the largest land conservation project in American history,” Baucus said. “This will ensure that people who want access to public lands will have it.”

The transaction will involve the sale of a full quarter of the timber giant's 1.2 million acres of land in Montana, and comes with a $500 million price tag. But according to Baucus, the deal in progress is a highlight of the senator's career, and comes on the heels of another memorable achievement - the recently enacted farm bill.

Baucus, chairman of the U.S. Senate Finance Committee, included a new Forest Conservation Bonding provision in the nation's farm bill that will provide $250 million for land conservation programs. The provision allows for the sale of federal tax-credit bonds to help finance land transactions and conservation opportunities like the Plum Creek deal.

In addition to the bonds, the deal in Montana will require $250 million in funding from other sources, such as state agencies (which will contribute about $100 million) and the two conservation groups - The Nature Conservancy and The Trust for Public Land, who will need to apply for the remaining balance through the U.S. Treasury. The $307 billion piece of legislation passed through the Senate on May 15.

Both conservation groups will “work hand-in-hand” with philanthropists and the state to match the federal dollars.

The parties will focus on large sections of private land abutting U.S. Forest Service parcels, Baucus said, adding that the transfer of the Plum Creek property to public ownership would mark “unprecedented new access” to lands.

Rick Holley, president and CEO of Plum Creek, said the deal will include lands in the Swan Valley, the Seeley Lake area and in Missoula County, but stressed that its finer points remain “a work in progress.”

Baucus took heat over his action on the farm bill, Holley said, but the tentative land agreement that grew out of the bill is so meaningful that it has already been named the “Legacy Project.”

Conservationists lauded the deal as a success for all Montanans who cherish their lands.

“This is Max's conservation legacy for the state of Montana,” said Eric Love, The Trust for Public Land's Northern Rockies Director.

“Because of what starts here today, we will continue to be the last best place, with more emphasis on the best than on the last,” Baucus said.

In Montana, Plum Creek sold 89,000 acres of land toThe Nature Conservancy as part of the Blackfoot Community Project. The Conservancy is now reselling those lands to public and private buyers, with conservation agreements.

Consolidation of these so-called checkerboarded private-public lands can lessen the costs and threat of wildfire to communities, while providing sustainable timber harvest that will provide jobs for communities, Holley said.

But congressional critics of the provision complained that the program's narrow criteria were met only in Montana. And while Baucus acknowledged that the provision appeared to be tailored for Montana, he also said it would be a model for other states seeking to conserve land.

“All of us have a moral obligation when we leave this place to leave it in as good of shape or better as when we got here,” Baucus said. “And that's what we're doing.”

Reporter Tristan Scott can be reached at 523-5264 or by e-mail at [email protected].
 
Is the state of MT planning on holding on to these parcels? That is my biggest worry about state lands in UT, their charter and processes make it much easier for them to sell land than any federal agency. All in all, I'm thinking this PC deal might be a bit of a win-win...
 
From what I've seen between this state and Nevada, when they need extra $$$ they start doing trades or out right selling of parcels

Nevada seems to have the better strategy, but it still ends up going to the highest bidder when the state gets a little cash strapped...
 
Pointer,

The state of Montana has a pretty good timber program. Since most of PC holdings are in fact decent timber lands, I'd expect the State to look at the investment as a long term proposition. Meaning, that they wouldnt be too inclined to sell and more likely to try to manage for timber, probably allow some grazing as well.

Further, a lot of the lands in question would not be real valuable to private investors. There is all sorts of problems associated with buying that land...easements, lots of snow, remote locations, water, etc. etc. etc. Also, any significant revenue returns on that land would take a long, long, time to happen. Most of PC's lands have already been logged 2-3 times. Some is growing back fairly quickly, some is in desperate need of reforestation and other treatments.

Most of PC's best land holdings have already been sold to private buyers, whats left is pretty marginal for any sort of development. They know it and so does the State.

From a recreational standpoint this sale makes good sense. Since I hunt deer in the checkerboard areas, including PC land holdings...I'm pretty happy to see this happening. I also think long-term it could be a good deal financially for the State of Montana as well.
 
Then that would be great news Buzz...

This would definatly be a great long term deal if it gets pulled off...
 
Given Montanas history of not peddling its land holdings...I'd expect what I posted to be the case. They have traded in the past, but usually come out pretty well on their trades.

I guess you never know for sure.
 
Are you saying that buying 300,000 acres of land is a bargain for taxpayers at $500,000,000? Sounds like someone is getting a finders fee then retiring.
 
Ringer,

Depends on how you look at things...but if my math is correct it comes out to about $1667/acre. Not a bad price for land in Montana.

Considering the complexities of the lands in question, how much public land it would consolidate, etc...decent deal for the taxpayer...obviously looking at it long-term.

Probably a better investment for 500,000,000 than trying to form a democracy in the middle east...
 
Buzz- Thanks for the info. State lands in UT are chartered to make money and in some cases that involves selling and just was curious... I agree that the blocking up of checkerboarded lands is a very good deal for the public and should ensure longer term access and enjoyment. Were these lands checkerboarded through a RR grant? Or just lands bought by PC?

IMO, states too often don't take advantage of these types of deals, usually due to the amount of $$ involved. I'm glad to see that the feds are helping out and getting this done, as it appears it'll help both the feds and the state of MT.

Rusty- Most of the lands being sold in NV (especially all those around Las Vegas) are federal lands and therefore the state gets very little money from the sale. They do make money on them through taxes after the sale. Very rarely does the federal government sell land, instead prefering to broker land through trades. The areas around Vegas are about the only places I can really support the sale of the lands...
 
Pointer,

The lands that PC owns were previously owned by Champion Int. and before that Anaconda Company. I do believe that some of their holdings were also RR grant land as well.

I say checker-boarded, but they really arent, just a various mix of ownerships...usually between State, FS, and PC. But, this sale will consolidate large tracts of land and the issue of easements, boundaries, etc. will be a non-issue. I hunt whitetails in an area of mixed ownership and it would be a management and enforcement night-mare if many private buyers were to purchase the PC lands.

There is no question that this sale will prove to be a very wise move for many hunters, hikers, fishermen, and other recreationalists.

Money well spent IMO.
 
Good deal! Living/working too close to Golden Spike country, I can vouch for the difficulties of true checkerboard... Now about those folks paying $15K/section that is lucky to grow greasewood, halogeton, and/or cheatgrass! :D :D Seems like at least once a year we get a call from someone looking to buy land out that way to retire... :rolleyes:
 
"but if my math is correct it comes out to about $1667/acre. Not a bad price for land in Montana."

Their selling me a quarter section of easy access butting up to private for $1,250/acre, Buzz. 12 miles from downtown Missoula. This is a good deal for Plum Creek as well for a sale that size.....and no real estate commisions to boot. Took a hike back in past the property yesterday. Neat country. Lot's of elk and deer. I'm thinking much of it will be bought up in this deal since it's a good size chunk of PC land that butts up against NF lands. Lots of roading and logging back in there but for the most part it looks like they've done an ok job of it. Locked gates allow for walk in access only. Looks like a few local atver's are going to need to be educated however. And a fair amount of knapweed is going to need to be combated as well.
 
For Jose and Buzz......

The street is likeing the new farm bill. How's SPY doing Jose?

PLUM CREEK TIM REIT(NYSE: PCL)
NEW Real-time: 44.65 0.82(1.87%) 2:42PM EThelp
Last Trade: 44.63
Trade Time: 2:22PM ET
Change: 0.80 (1.83%)
Prev Close: 43.83
Open: 43.91
Bid: N/A
Ask: N/A
1y Target Est: 45.00
Day's Range: 43.73 - 44.67
52wk Range: 37.52 - 48.45
Volume: 791,860
Avg Vol (3m): 1,620,590
Market Cap: 7.64B
P/E (ttm): 28.12
EPS (ttm): 1.58
Div & Yield: 1.68 (3.90%
 
Today's looking even better Jose. I think Baucus is going to get a nice campaign contribution from PC for this coming election, eh Buzz?

PLUM CREEK TIM REIT(NYSE: PCL)
NEW Real-time: 46.60 1.67(3.72%) 10:09am EThelp
Last Trade: 46.70
Trade Time: 9:49AM ET
Change: 1.77 (3.94%)
Prev Close: 44.93
Open: 45.57
Bid: N/A
Ask: N/A
1y Target Est: 45.00
Day's Range: 45.44 - 47.19
52wk Range: 37.52 - 48.45
Volume: 418,654
Avg Vol (3m): 1,628,740
Market Cap: 7.99B
P/E (ttm): 29.48
EPS (ttm): 1.58
Div & Yield: 1.68 (3.80
 
BigWhore,

Show us how many shares you own. You can do a screen print of your brokerage account, just blot out the personal id information.

Thanks in advance.
 
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