Zootownelk
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I have one of those in the safe from my late wife's family homestead in Sask. Might be J.C. Higgins or Marlin. All the same gun. Definitely not John Browning's best work! Heavy to carry and rough to cycle. His next effort at pump shotgun was much better. More or less still with us as Ithaca 37. Interesting that all three of his pump designs - Win 97, the "Squarebacks," and Ithaca 37 - would slam fire. Ithaca eventually fixed it.That 520 is wicked cool. Nice shotgun!
I have one too.My Dad's model 12. He got it on his 16th birthday, and it was his primary shotgun until around 2008. I took it out on his birthday last year which was the 58th anniversary of when he received it.
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It could be worse. A few years back while hunting my two Labs and Fr Britt very hard in Montana, I switched them to fancy high protein Purina dogfood. I paid a high price and more than just the $$$. Had a pizza at the bar and watched the tail end of Monday Night Football. When I opened the Jimmy door the stench almost knocked me over. Multiply your dog's mess by three ... and the excretions were all from the other end! I just shut the door and headed down the street to the grocery store for a mop bucket and paper towels ... and different dogfood. What a chorus of whines, howls, and barks as I walked away from the vehicle. Poor buggers. On a hot summer day I can sometimes still smell it in the Jimmy.
My son and I still use a "Model of 1917" 30-06 that was originally built for WWI.
Dad bought it surplus after WWII, and sporterized it. I updated it in the 1990's with a scope and a B&C stock.
My son has used it the past ten years or so and has taken two bear and at least a couple of buck deer with it. Good old rifle still.
Guy
Dad bought one of those sporterized for my youngest brother for his 12th birthday (1968?). He still has it. Heavy beast built like a tank. I'm told the action can handle 300 H&H. They were supremely accurate and sought after by snipers. Apparently more US soldiers were sent to the trenches with 1917 Enfield than 1903 Springfield. Besides their heavier weight, the other differences were Enfield cocked on closing and held an additional shell in the magazine (6 vs Springfield's 5 though I'm not sure the Enfield bolt can be closed with full magazine). It's interesting that Brits insisted @#)(# on closing provided much faster rate of fire. I don't get that. But as any military historian knows, the British general staff had their heads shoved pretty far up their asses at the start of WWI.My son and I still use a "Model of 1917" 30-06 that was originally built for WWI.
Dad bought it surplus after WWII, and sporterized it. I updated it in the 1990's with a scope and a B&C stock.
My son has used it the past ten years or so and has taken two bear and at least a couple of buck deer with it. Good old rifle still.
Guy
Interesting. Did you have to change the magazine to get it to fit in that stock?I've got a Winchester P14 1917 in 338 Win Mag that's a sub MOA rifle with handloads. It's a beast of an action but those old Enfields are wicked good actions. I switched out the stock for a Remington Model 30 Express I picked up from @Durango Mike to make it moreof a classic, but that heavy SOB is serious elk medicine.
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Interesting. Did you have to change the magazine to get it to fit in that stock?
From looking at it I thought your gun's box must have been changed. Look at the other fella's image. See how bulgy the military magazine box is due to sixth round. Stripper clips only held five rounds so this design really didn't make a lot of sense from a military perspective. Can you close the bolt on your gun with a full magazine? My Springfield's maximum capacity is six rounds if I fully load magazine, drop a round in the chamber, and close the bolt as I depress shells in the magazine. I presume Enfield has 3-position safety? Guess I could look. I have a 1917 .303 clunker in storage but I understand they are not the same gun in several respects besides the barrel. I have also read early Winchester production was somewhat unique in that not all parts were interchangeable with others being made at the same time. However, I think it was sorted out before P14?It was a used rifle I picked up for about $300 in 2007 or so. All of the work is custom from D. Hetland, whom I haven't been able to track down. The 338 WM & 30-06 both have 3.340 Overall Length, so the box is still standard. The magazine holds 5 rounds, rather than 6 though.
The stock looks to be an old Fajen or something similar. It was designed for that action.
Thanks for that info. .505 Gibbs, eh? Maybe I can do something interesting with this clunker and put together a dangerous game gun. I'm developing an addiction to cape buffalo. Someday you'll see why.It was a used rifle I picked up for about $300 in 2007 or so. All of the work is custom from D. Hetland, whom I haven't been able to track down. The 338 WM & 30-06 both have 3.340 Overall Length, so the box is still standard. The magazine holds 5 rounds, rather than 6 though.
The stock looks to be an old Fajen or something similar. It was designed for that action.
The actions are long enough to handle up to 375 H&H Mag, or even 505 Gibbs. They were overbuilt for heavy use, so they make great custom actions for magnums, and they were used in the 20's & 30's to help bring African Dangerous Game rifles to the working class, resulting in a great equalization of opportunity in that aspect. Since these were originally designed for the 303 british round as a supplement to the Enfield MK's, they had a bolt face for rimmed cartridges. When the US entered into WWI, they didn't have enough Springfields, but the major gun companies were tooled up for the P17's, so they adapted them to work with the 30 Gov't and they became legends to Americans for a century.
Good lord, do I love those little Mdl 600'sMy 16th B'day present (1966). More whitetails have graced my table than I have fingers & toes from this little killer. 308. It's LOUD and it KICKS, but it sure does the job.