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Not a Game Law issue, but I'm interested in WA HTer's opinion of this new WA proposed gun law bill HB 1504.

Jesus...hard to feel bad for that state when they keep electing those morons and their bulls**t policies. Washington, Oregon, California etc. should be their own country.
The Dems have had a stranglehold on power in this state for the last 40 yrs.
3 Insane counties, Pierce, King & Snohomish determine everything & if you told me they count dead people, id believe it.
Which is worse...... Taxation without representation or The illusion of representation & the will of the people ignored.
One is a lie, & both amount to the same thing.
If I could, I would move to Idaho in a heartbeat, No matter how I or anyone else votes here, all we get are more infringements & more blue insanity. It does not ever seem to end.
 
Kirk is a clown and I would hope he leaves the state. But he points out the problems in the law
The real Clowns are the ones in Olympia who are infringing on our Rights every legislative session for decades.
Kirk is the one pointing this out & you want to trash him?
That's like being carjacked & telling a good Samaritan to get lost.

Kirk is doing Way more than most to bring awareness to the issues that affect ALL of us that care about 2A rights & should be applauded for his efforts. I know I do.

HB 1504 has failed, however HB 1163, (Permit to purchase & live fire training proficiency requirement) just passed the state senate & will be on the Gov.to sign all too soon.

 
no matter what anti gun legislation is passed.
This is exactly why we are where we are in this state, each year chipping away at our Rights.
I will not be a frog in the pot, you can choose to be onethough.

"Those who give up freedom (rights) for security deserve neither"
 
This is exactly why we are where we are in this state, each year chipping away at our Rights.
I will not be a frog in the pot, you can choose to be onethough.

"Those who give up freedom (rights) for security deserve neither"
You can always jump out of the pot, as Kirk suggested people would or should.
 
I think the point of the legislation is directed at FFL dealers. It is in response to a series of burglaries of gun shops across the state. I can speak to other states, so if you see the same thing then “you do you”, but I actually am open to the premise of the legislation. We no longer live in a world where a shop can just lock its doors and close up at night and have some reasonable certainly that the place won’t be broken into. If you sell guns, I think you should have a higher degree of security, or more insurance. That said, I don’t know if this legislation is the proper solution. But it’s a starting point for discussion. If it gets voted in, for those that don’t like it they can move. That is freedom. I suggest moving to Montana so they can shoot mulie forkies for cheap every year. ;)
This will do nothing to stop burglaries.

"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Ben Franklin
 
This will do nothing to stop burglaries.

"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Ben Franklin
I'm not sure "stopping burglaries" is the point. Making a gun shop have tighter security than a the barber shop next door is. Some of the burglaries are pretty suspect. Kind of like when a business burns down.
 
that isn't the point either, their aim is to discourage, impede & prevent ANY body from obtaining firearms period if they could,
Maybe ultimately. I can't speak to that. I do think Americans better start caring about the other Amendments as much as they do about the 2nd, because that one seems pretty safe right now.
 
Maybe ultimately. I can't speak to that. I do think Americans better start caring about the other Amendments as much as they do about the 2nd, because that one seems pretty safe right now.
"seems pretty safe?" "Seems" is a vague term,
"pretty safe"?? Does that mean as long as the sheeple accepts all the infringements the gun grabbing groups want.....
or what the govt. determines, or your nosey neighbor down the street?

In the real world the 2A is & has been under Egregious Assault for a very long time now.
A friend says to me, he doesn't "feel" (seems) infringed upon..... that doesn't mean he isn't being infringed.
The fact of the matter is that His rights are being infringed, he just hasn't faced reality yet.

Don't be deceived, The 2nd Amendment protects the 1st & ALL the other ones as well.
This should be required reading in all of the schools, colleges & universities.
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Maybe ultimately. I can't speak to that. I do think Americans better start caring about the other Amendments as much as they do about the 2nd, because that one seems pretty safe right now.
“Pretty safe”? Unless you live in Colorado……

Disclaimer: Freedom of speech, parental rights, and private property rights are also under attack by the extreme Colorado General Assembly so I do partially agree with your statement. We have to pay attention to all of them.
 
"The beauty of the 2nd Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it".

-Thomas Jefferson
 
"The beauty of the 2nd Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it".

-Thomas Jefferson
They know they can not take it without a war, their strategy now is to slowly but surely chip away at it, dilute to the point of meaningless...... at least in my state & many others as well.
The blue states will snub their nose & resist any rulings from the Feds they do not like.
 
They know they can not take it without a war, their strategy now is to slowly but surely chip away at it, dilute to the point of meaningless...... at least in my state & many others as well.
The blue states will snub their nose & resist any rulings from the Feds they do not like.
I agree 100%. They've (the liberals) been at it forever. I'm an FFL and I'll resist everything.
 

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