Moosie
Grand poopa
I was reading the WELCOME NAHC and the Bashing that goes on in there on the NAHC club, so I took the time to explain a few things about clubs and more importantly about this site.
BILL said : "Moosie readily talks to anyone." Implying that this was a Friendlier site and that at least here the "HEAD CHEESE" (If I can Use that term) takes the Time out to talk to everyone and Respond to Questions as much as He(me actually) can. I really like that feeling and knowing I do that.
That I do, But I still don't get to reply to Every post, And , I don't answer all my Emails. Some people still get mad or think I don't like them. So I fall under the NAHC "HEAD GUYS" place sometimes. I'm human and Have a Busy life off the net too (Unless you ask my wife and she'll say this place is my life. *WINK WINK*
I get alot of Emails and phone calls and sometimes I just nuke a bunch. I try to Respond to everyone but posting here takes a few Hours a day on Average and If I reply (just a Basic reply) to 30 people a day with Board and personal (Sometimes it's one in the same
) thats another 2 hours @ 4 mins a Message which isn't alot of time.
Some Messages ask to have Help on the Board which can Go into the 1.2 hour - hour mark.
This is My point of this post (Which I usually don't have
)
I could Burn 16 hours a Day replying and fixin' stuff. NAHC has a Little bigger staff, but has ALOT more people then I have here so that could be a reason they don't seem "AS FRIENDLY".
I'm not defending them for I think It's kind of a Shiester deal, but I don't know all the Story behind it either so I'm noton the BASHING wagon.
If you're not aware, there is a Voletary paying Membership here to help run this site. Simular to the NAHC club, just at a smaller level. I usually send out a WELOCME to HUNTTALK.com Email to new Register's.
I hunted 74 days last year going to Canada and AK in the mix of hunting My home state of Idaho. I definately didn't do it off of any Membership money. Not at all.
For Example, Last year we had about 40 (I think) members sign up, and a few "Comp" memberships for people . If you do the Math you'd think I'm making TONS of money and not loosing it.. But lets do some math.
Mwmbership we calc'ed at $24/year. Paypal takes a buck (about)on Electronic transfers but it's handy so what do ya do
( for the transitions). So that's $23 lets say for the membership. At 40 people (about $920). I send out (Actually Mojave sends it all) some stuff with the Initial Sign in. It's no Different then the NAHC or another club thus far. I just paid last month $400 for Web space I owed for last year still with another Check here in a month for the beginning of this year I need to send.
We have a Newsletter that costs about 2 bucks to print on Laser and we send them another place to fold and Staple (0.25 a piece) and we only had 3 last year instead of 4 but we should have 4. So that's about $2.25. Mailing on to of that At .37 x 4 so we'll say a $1.50/year (each).
So about total newsletters = $3.75 (total) x 50(w/ the comp ones) = $190
We also are Sending out decals in the Next Newsletters to everyone that renued (Which is about only 8 people as of today I think ..
) and Even Our cost (Which I don't know off hand) is around 6-7 bucks and Shipping. So that's (@ all the members and @ the 6-7 bucks) = $300-$350)
Now, we're upgradeing the board later this month or Next month and Are gonig to be out a Couple Hundred bucks for that.
This ALL doesn't include the HOURS that Delw, Mojave, myself (And others) have put in.
I'm not saying that clubs, Especially NAHC aren't making money from people but to Say they are getting to go hunting on the money and such I just can't see. At least at this level I don't see it ? We've always Ran a Negative Deficite at this place. I guarentee the $ coming in has helped a bunch, And It's a Volenteer donation thing, but no-one is hunting or making a living off of it at this place.
I can see that the bigger "club" (If you will) is the better off it is and we run a Small private ship, but the Idea of what we do isn't different then any other "CLUB". We're just more of a Family then most.
I make.... Well, thats not important but WELL over Minimum wage at my Regualr Job and I'd be FAR better working only 1 extra hour a year and pocketing it then the 500+ hours I spend on the net.
The difference is, I like doing this (net/board stuff) and even at loosing money I'll continue. It's like hunting and trying to put a Price on the meat. I've made more in Friendships and such then $'s can be put on. So this place (Hopefully) will always have the personal "I'm ME and welcoem to our house" attitde and hopefully everyone can Enjoy it as much as I have.
Hopefully in the Future we'll have 100's of "Suporting members" and we can Grow into something more "GOODER"( that's a word around here ya know)
I know you guys weren't bringing HuntTalk.com into this "GOING HUNTING/ MILKING MEMBERS/ Piece of Chit" catagory, but I felt a little on the Defensive with the "CLUB" bashing so I postd it just as an F.Y.I.
Sorry for the Long wind there......
BILL said : "Moosie readily talks to anyone." Implying that this was a Friendlier site and that at least here the "HEAD CHEESE" (If I can Use that term) takes the Time out to talk to everyone and Respond to Questions as much as He(me actually) can. I really like that feeling and knowing I do that.
That I do, But I still don't get to reply to Every post, And , I don't answer all my Emails. Some people still get mad or think I don't like them. So I fall under the NAHC "HEAD GUYS" place sometimes. I'm human and Have a Busy life off the net too (Unless you ask my wife and she'll say this place is my life. *WINK WINK*
I get alot of Emails and phone calls and sometimes I just nuke a bunch. I try to Respond to everyone but posting here takes a few Hours a day on Average and If I reply (just a Basic reply) to 30 people a day with Board and personal (Sometimes it's one in the same
Some Messages ask to have Help on the Board which can Go into the 1.2 hour - hour mark.
This is My point of this post (Which I usually don't have
I could Burn 16 hours a Day replying and fixin' stuff. NAHC has a Little bigger staff, but has ALOT more people then I have here so that could be a reason they don't seem "AS FRIENDLY".
I'm not defending them for I think It's kind of a Shiester deal, but I don't know all the Story behind it either so I'm noton the BASHING wagon.
If you're not aware, there is a Voletary paying Membership here to help run this site. Simular to the NAHC club, just at a smaller level. I usually send out a WELOCME to HUNTTALK.com Email to new Register's.
I hunted 74 days last year going to Canada and AK in the mix of hunting My home state of Idaho. I definately didn't do it off of any Membership money. Not at all.
For Example, Last year we had about 40 (I think) members sign up, and a few "Comp" memberships for people . If you do the Math you'd think I'm making TONS of money and not loosing it.. But lets do some math.
Mwmbership we calc'ed at $24/year. Paypal takes a buck (about)on Electronic transfers but it's handy so what do ya do
We have a Newsletter that costs about 2 bucks to print on Laser and we send them another place to fold and Staple (0.25 a piece) and we only had 3 last year instead of 4 but we should have 4. So that's about $2.25. Mailing on to of that At .37 x 4 so we'll say a $1.50/year (each).
So about total newsletters = $3.75 (total) x 50(w/ the comp ones) = $190
We also are Sending out decals in the Next Newsletters to everyone that renued (Which is about only 8 people as of today I think ..
Now, we're upgradeing the board later this month or Next month and Are gonig to be out a Couple Hundred bucks for that.
This ALL doesn't include the HOURS that Delw, Mojave, myself (And others) have put in.
I'm not saying that clubs, Especially NAHC aren't making money from people but to Say they are getting to go hunting on the money and such I just can't see. At least at this level I don't see it ? We've always Ran a Negative Deficite at this place. I guarentee the $ coming in has helped a bunch, And It's a Volenteer donation thing, but no-one is hunting or making a living off of it at this place.
I can see that the bigger "club" (If you will) is the better off it is and we run a Small private ship, but the Idea of what we do isn't different then any other "CLUB". We're just more of a Family then most.
I make.... Well, thats not important but WELL over Minimum wage at my Regualr Job and I'd be FAR better working only 1 extra hour a year and pocketing it then the 500+ hours I spend on the net.
The difference is, I like doing this (net/board stuff) and even at loosing money I'll continue. It's like hunting and trying to put a Price on the meat. I've made more in Friendships and such then $'s can be put on. So this place (Hopefully) will always have the personal "I'm ME and welcoem to our house" attitde and hopefully everyone can Enjoy it as much as I have.
Hopefully in the Future we'll have 100's of "Suporting members" and we can Grow into something more "GOODER"( that's a word around here ya know)
I know you guys weren't bringing HuntTalk.com into this "GOING HUNTING/ MILKING MEMBERS/ Piece of Chit" catagory, but I felt a little on the Defensive with the "CLUB" bashing so I postd it just as an F.Y.I.
Sorry for the Long wind there......
