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My Take - SB 5 - Game Commission Reform +

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This bill, SB 5 cleared the NM House yesterday on a 42-26 mostly partyline vote. Dems in favor. Next step is back to the senate for concurrence. Odds are really high the bill will hit the Governor’s desk. No one knows if she will sign it. I think she will. This bill has been 8 years in the making. This version is by far the best version. Thank god the governor pocket vetoed the 2023 version. The 2023 version would have been much closer to the anti takeover that is plaguing WA and to a lesser but significant extent CO. Our governor, like all before her, has abused her power over the commission to lock down privatization. But she is on the way out the door when the new commission structure would take place. She might just sign it because everyone in NM hates our game commission system. Imagine if we ever had a governor in NM like WA or CO that puts animal rights above hunting? We would be doomed.

I’m actually happy it passed as a long time New Mexican advocate for public and resident hunting. There are two primary reasons for this. First, it is a really good reform of the game commission appointment and removal process. New Mexico’s current commission system has given us the out-of-this-world privatization system we have. The new commission system with a nominating committee that mirrors Arizona is about as good as could be expected.

Second, I think that where New Mexico is politically right now and the trend on things wildlife this was the best time to do a comprehensive reform that does not handover wildlife regulation to anti forces. I think we really dodged a future bullet if this bill is signed by the governor. Reform was coming. We nipped it in the bud before reform would equal a huge de-emphasis on hunting. Every year hunting has been losing ground. But right now hunting is a powerful enough voice in New Mexico to prevent toxic language in a reform bill.

All that said, I went to every senate and house committee meeting except one (3 out of 4) and spoke in opposition to the bill. But my opposition was not about what is in the bill. It was about what was not in the bill. Specifically the greatest wealth based big game tag privatization scheme in any western state was not addressed in any way shape or form. What I unsuccessfully lobbied for (not really lobby because I am not a lobbyist or ever been paid to advocate) was an increase in the nonresident license fees to build a fiscal bridge to selling less nonresident and more resident tags. The NR fees in the bill are well short, $2.3 million in real dollar terms a year, since the last fee increase 20 years ago. But this is not insurmountable because a different bill (HB2 I think) includes $10.5 million over the next three years in general fund GRO money for basically nongame and species of greatest conservation need. As long as the Department can show it spent the new money wisely it will become permanent general fund funding. The department I’m sure will be able to show wise use of the money. NM also created a trust fund in 2023 that generates $2.7 million dollars a year (and growing) for species of greatest conservation need. Freeing up more than enough of our hunting license revenue for a reset of New Mexico’s big game allocation system that favors rich nonresident hunters over middle class residents and nonresidents.

With SB 5 and the new revenue and new commission structure us New Mexican public big game tag advocates will have at least a chance of increasing the share of both resident and nonresident public big game tags. Status quo has meant no chance.

Still, I’m in the process of helping to create a fund to sue the living shit out of the State of New Mexico to get our big game tags back in the public domain where they belong. For both residents and nonresidents.
 
Regarding SB 5 and providing the Senate concurs and the governor signs it how long does it take for a 'new' commission to effectively change the privatization culture?
 
Basically, she vetoed a section that dealt with removing commissioners. SB5 would have it done by an ethics committee and she says that would be too slow, and allow a potentially bad commissioner to remain in place during the process. You can find the line and her letter describing it here:

 
E-plus was not up for revision. Not part of the bill discussion.
Tag & lic. fees and commission make up was.
Hey hank4elk, I read up on E-plus along with SB 5 and the concerns about privatization,etc. My wife and I are looking to move to Southern NM once our house sells. I've been deer hunting for a long time here in California and have been through the changes as it relates to hunting, but I wonder what in blue blazes I'm walking into once I qualify as a resident and apply for tags. Your comments are welcomed.
 

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Hey hank4elk, I read up on E-plus along with SB 5 and the concerns about privatization,etc. My wife and I are looking to move to Southern NM once our house sells. I've been deer hunting for a long time here in California and have been through the changes as it relates to hunting, but I wonder what in blue blazes I'm walking into once I qualify as a resident and apply for tags. Your comments are welcomed.
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Hey hank4elk, I read up on E-plus along with SB 5 and the concerns about privatization,etc. My wife and I are looking to move to Southern NM once our house sells. I've been deer hunting for a long time here in California and have been through the changes as it relates to hunting, but I wonder what in blue blazes I'm walking into once I qualify as a resident and apply for tags. Your comments are welcomed.
The current EPLUS model means you will have a large percentage of tags available to you and everyone else in a lottery style.

But it also represents multiple additional opportunities to control your ability to hunt. It isn't just sheer luck with EPLUS as part of the equation.

You can buy a landowner tag, or become a landowner and create meaningful habitat for elk and be rewarded for the work you put in. The amazing herd that NM has today, as wide spread wildlife is now, is largely due to resources created by landowners. Especially water resources. These larger herds also equal more draw tags too.

EPLUS isn't perfect but it's probably the best model in the west...a long with no preference points in the draw. New Mexico has a great system.
 
The current EPLUS model means you will have a large percentage of tags available to you and everyone else in a lottery style.

But it also represents multiple additional opportunities to control your ability to hunt. It isn't just sheer luck with EPLUS as part of the equation.

You can buy a landowner tag, or become a landowner and create meaningful habitat for elk and be rewarded for the work you put in. The amazing herd that NM has today, as wide spread wildlife is now, is largely due to resources created by landowners. Especially water resources. These larger herds also equal more draw tags too.

EPLUS isn't perfect but it's probably the best model in the west...a long with no preference points in the draw. New Mexico has a great system.
Hey Bulldawg 10, I appreciate your insight of EPlus; I'll read up on it again - soon. I'm going to seek understanding regarding how it represents multiple opportunities to control your ability to hunt ( I think I know what you mean); I think the answer lies in the amount of landowners that participate in the program. I'm a deer hunter at heart and when I re-read the subject I hope to find that landowner tags aren't beyond financial reach. Anyway, I've got time for that and thank you for keeping it real.
 
Hey Bulldawg 10, I appreciate your insight of EPlus; I'll read up on it again - soon. I'm going to seek understanding regarding how it represents multiple opportunities to control your ability to hunt ( I think I know what you mean); I think the answer lies in the amount of landowners that participate in the program. I'm a deer hunter at heart and when I re-read the subject I hope to find that landowner tags aren't beyond financial reach. Anyway, I've got time for that and thank you for keeping it real.
Financial reach is relative. The poorest people in the population can't afford the vehicle, fuel, insurance, license and supplies to even hunt a draw tag. But, at least everyone has the right to draw a tag or buy a tag, win a tag, trade / barter for a tag, buy and develop land for a tag in the NM system...that doesn't mean they can afford to do so, but they all have the right to and equals far more opportunities than strictly luck of the draw like so many here push for

Bull tags in primo units can certainly be pricey. Some units much more so than others in the Primary Zone. Those tags are extreme limited in numbers. And the number of landowner tags generally have a strong correlation to how much private land there is in each unit.

For example, 16A had only 6 rifle bull landowner tags in 2024. (For all rifle seasons)

In the draw for 1st rifle were 75 bull tags.
63 in resident pool
7 in the outfitter pool
5 in the non-resident pool.

The reason 16A only had 6 landowner tags is the Unit is almost 97% public land.

Remember, this is just 1st rifle, there are more hunts with more tags in the draw. But there are only 6 landowner bull tags that can be bought.

Comparatively, other units are the opposite and almost entirely private lands. Therefore much higher numbers of landowner tags vs draw tags.

So, for a more affordable options, look to a unit with a lot more landowner tags and you will find more affordable options. You can also buy cow tags if lower cost meat hunt is the goal. Supply and demand. Only residents can draw cow tags and those draws tag are much higher odds to draw.

But NM also has very affordable land prices across much of the state. Consider learning the land requirements, buy land, submit it to EPLUS and try and get your own landowner tag/s.

Generally to qualify in the Primary Zone, you are going to need to provide on your land, solid Cover, Forage, and Water. All important habitat needs of elk.

NM has very little natural surface water in most of the state. If you put in year round water, this is such a large benefit to all wildlife but EPLUS can really reward you for it with tag opportunities.

Landowner waters have allowed herds to grow and disperse tremendously over the years. This equals larger, still growing herds today. These larger herds mean more tags in the draw and to landowners.

Additionally, landowners that want tags to be unitwide, they have to open their land to the public land hunter too. Over 600,000 acres were unit wide last year, across NM. That's all private land that any legal tag holder for that unit can hunt.

I think we should push more landowners to sign up as Unitwide properties, not eliminate unitwide tags, as many will push. Open more land to everyone...their model (NMWF, BHA and others) would close unitwide properties and eliminate unitwide tags.

When you realize the land requirements, you also know there is a great chance those properties have some high quality resources to support elk. I personally have had some great experiences on unitwide EPLUS land. Private land that I didn't need to ask permission to hunt...I just climbed a gate and started hunting on the other side.

New Mexico's current system is well thought out and functionally very strong, it benefits elk, landowners, and public land hunters alike.. Contrary to propaganda narratives you will read on most of these groups and forums.
 
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New Mexico's current system is well thought out and functionally very strong, it benefits elk, landowners, and public land hunters alike.. Contrary to propaganda narratives you will read on most of these groups and forums.

Spot on with that entire post @bulldawg10.

You’re right in that many have dug their heels so deep on this issue there is no reasoning at this point- but that does seem to be changing as the success of these programs continues to grow to a point where it becomes hard to ignore.
 
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