More Grizzly Conflicts in Montana

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Yaak grizzly sow killed, two cubs orphaned
Posted on September 27
By MICHAEL JAMISON of the Missoulian



LIBBY n A female grizzly bear was killed by bowhunters in the Yaak Valley last weekend, the latest in a string of violent run-ins between bears and people.

Wildlife managers, who are investigating the incident, said the hunters have claimed self-defense.

The 11-year-old female was traveling with two cubs, they said, one of which has since been captured and fitted with a radio collar. Researchers will use DNA to determine if, in fact, the female grizzly is the same bear captured and tagged as a yearling in 1997.


Scientists have kept close tabs on the Yaak’s bears, as the population there is considered precarious. Only about two dozen grizzlies are thought to persist there, with another dozen or so living south of Yaak in the Cabinet Mountains.

The incident comes less than a week after a grizzly bear was shot and killed on the Flathead Indian Reservation, near the Ninepipe National Wildlife Refuge.

That bear’s front claws were removed, presumably by the shooter, and a $5,000 reward has been posted for information in the case.

In the week prior to that shooting, a whopping 10 adult grizzlies were captured and relocated in northwestern Montana, after the bears were found nosing around cabins and orchards.

Wildlife managers said both grizzly and black bears are gorging on calories this time of year, trying to pack away fat before taking to their winter dens. They encourage residents to remove any possible attractants, such a birdfeeders, animal food and garbage.

One bear, tracked and identified by DNA but not yet captured, broke into nine unoccupied cabins near Condon this month, tearing into refrigerators in search of food. He is thought to be the same bear that broke into Forest Service cabins last fall, and wildlife managers continue efforts to capture the bear.

Most of the problems should fix themselves in coming weeks, wildlife officials said, as the bears den in for the cold months.
 
Maybe I should just make this my signature... :)

Jose - please give it a rest. You are a cyber-bully coward, with a black belt in typing.

Remember when someone actually posted info about you, and you were so scared you were begging the admins like a little girl to remove the stuff, as you were afraid you might have to face someone in person?

You post nothing here about hunting, shooting, reloading, gunsmithing or anything else of value on a hunting forum and remove any and all pictures of yourself, as you are scared someone might recognize you. When was the last time you posted a picture from a hunt? When was the last time you posted about a hunt you went on?????

Run to Oscar and threaten to take your blind back, complaining about me...
 
Maybe I should just make this my signature... :)

Jose - please give it a rest. You are a cyber-bully coward, with a black belt in typing.

Remember when someone actually posted info about you, and you were so scared you were begging the admins like a little girl to remove the stuff, as you were afraid you might have to face someone in person?

You post nothing here about hunting, shooting, reloading, gunsmithing or anything else of value on a hunting forum and remove any and all pictures of yourself, as you are scared someone might recognize you. When was the last time you posted a picture from a hunt? When was the last time you posted about a hunt you went on?????

Run to Oscar and threaten to take your blind back, complaining about me...

Cali,

You ever read the Guidelines YOU wrote??? Bahahahahaha hump

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Just a reminder - posts with name calling or personal attacks will be deleted. Keep it civil, gentlemen (and any ladies).

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You gotta admit, I have a gift for bringing out the worst in you...... :D
 
I believe we may have us a hybrid troll/bullie on our hands here !
check out the evidence!
I dont know what you would call it.....maybe a trollie?

Trolls vs Internet bullies

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I actually find that there are two classes of people who cause maximum trouble on forums. One is of course, the traditional "troll" who wreaks havoc by anti-social behaviour and by deliberately riling up forum members to get kicks out of it, causing havoc and bad blood in the process.

I think as admins, we need to realize that there is another group which I would term as "online bullies" or "internet bullies" who can become equally destructive in undermining communities.

These gentlemen/ladies differ from trolls in the sense that they are not anti-social, but they are an accepted and sometimes well-respected members who assume a sort of informal and unofficial leadership role. They use this position to intimidate and assert their views on newer and less established members and often push their weight around to mark territorial rights. They will generally try and behave properly, but subtly try and behave like moderators and preach about forum behaviour. They will also turn and insult people as they wish and surprisingly other forum members will turn a blind eye to them. They will usually "adopt" ownership of a single forum or a subforum of a board and hang out there frequently with their clan. (this feature is usually more common in larger forums)

These people are often the starting point of cliques because they can gather a group of yes-people around them in no time.

Beware of these people and watch out for them because they can be a lot more trouble in the long run than isolated trolls running loose.

Sometimes you just need an excellent troll to combat an established forum bully

Similarities between trolls and bullies:
1.Both trolls and bullies can cause enormous damage to a forum by their behaviour.
2.Both trolls and bullies usually have excellent communication skills using which they attack their opponents unmercifully.
3.Both trolls and bullies can be intimidating to any normal forum user.
4.Both trolls and bullies have the effect of creating bad blood.
5.Both trolls and bullies are hard to control without intervention right from the top - the forum administrator(s) or owner(s) because even moderators might find it hard to control them without support from others.

Differences

1.Trolls are usually isolated. They are generally short-lived in a forum. A person who signs up on a forum specifically to troll doesn't hang around in other parts of the forum and leaves as soon as the damage is done.
Bullies are more or less regular forum members who might have a huge post count and a following.
2.Trolls usually hit and run. A successful troll needs only a couple of posts in a single thread to turn it into a raging tornado.
3.Bullies stay on and intimidate other members by throwing their weight around and using their group of yes-people to lend force to their powerful attacks.
4.
Trolls are usually identified for what they are.
Bullies rarely get identified for what they are, because they are regular members and nobody can suggest that they are ordinary trolls because they have a huge post count.
5.Trolls hardly respond to challenges. Instead they enjoy watching others fight.Bullies enjoy fighting and run around bashing everybody who dares oppose them.
The potential damage done by trolls is limited to a particular topic of discussion or at most a forum.
The potential damage done by bullies is forum-wide and not related to topics, but to the personality of the bully and the kind of respect and influence he wields.
 
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