Montana nonresident landowner get elk tags every year?

[rogerthat]

So the law states they don't have to hunt on thier own land?

No you can hunt anywhere you like that the permit allows

 

[Lota lota]

Don't know if this is what they are doing, but if they are hunting with an outfitter they can get the outfitter bonus points and be all but guaranteed to draw the general license.

My not be shady, but it sure smells like BS.

I've heard through a very reputable source (which shall remain nameless) that the outfitter they go with is a real estate/land broker. He sells the land to them that they are hunting for a very small amount of money so their name is on it. They then get landowner preference licenses. After their hunt, they sell it back to the broker for a small amount. They also pay the outfitting fees etc. Allegedly they've been doing it for years.

 

[Badger_55]

Should there even be resident landowner tags?

Yes. But only valid for that landowner and their immediate family.

 

[Badger_55]

Yes. But only valid for that landowner and their immediate family.

And only on their land

 

[Ought Six]

I've heard through a very reputable source (which shall remain nameless) that the outfitter they go with is a real estate/land broker. He sells the land to them that they are hunting for a very small amount of money so their name is on it. They then get landowner preference licenses. After their hunt, they sell it back to the broker for a small amount. They also pay the outfitting fees etc. Allegedly they've been doing it for years.

Yes, have been told the same

 

[rogerthat]

I've heard through a very reputable source (which shall remain nameless) that the outfitter they go with is a real estate/land broker. He sells the land to them that they are hunting for a very small amount of money so their name is on it. They then get landowner preference licenses. After their hunt, they sell it back to the broker for a small amount. They also pay the outfitting fees etc. Allegedly they've been doing it for years.

I have heard something similar. I am pretty sure you just have to have a signed contract to apply landowner preference. You don’t have to actually execute said contract. I think this may be common to other landowner preference programs across the country. Seems like a perfect setup for abuse.

 

[Treeshark]

I think this may be common to other landowner preference programs across the country.

A lot of the ones in other states are transferable, so this kind of thing would not be necessary.

 

[Nick87]

A lot of the ones in other states are transferable, so this kind of thing would not be necessary.

What's a lot?

 

[Forkyfinder]

 

[Treeshark]

What's a lot?

Four for sure- Colorado, NM, Utah, Nevada.

*”A lot” certainly up for discussion, but it’s a fair proportion of western states that offer landowner tags in my opinion.

I get a lot of people are turned off by transferable tags- but an open transfer system seems less gross than this crap going on in Montana.

Fake real estate contracts… what’ll they think of next?!

 

[Nick87]

Four for sure- Colorado, NM, Utah, Nevada.

Doesn't seem like a lot. Seems like the exception.

 

[mtmuley]

Four for sure- Colorado, NM, Utah, Nevada.

Four places for you to hunt. mtmuley

 

[Nick87]

Fake real estate contracts… what’ll they think of next?!

Idk but the people who come up with this are the same ones in favor of transferable tags...so you can see where I'm Going with that. I really don't want to do this again. Lol

 

[cgasner1]

Doesn't seem like a lot. Seems like the exception.

8% can be a lot depending on what your talking about.

 

[TheTone]

I’d still like to know how bad that bull he killed this year smelled after laying there dead for by his own account 16 hours before they started working on it

 

[huntin24/7]

Should there even be resident landowner tags?

That’s one I have a harder time with. I don’t get much heartburn over someone who lives in the state and helps feed the wildlife getting a bit higher chance at getting tags within reason and depending on how much acreage they own as long as the tag is only valid on their property. I despise the idea of someone who basically lives full time in another state, doesn’t deal with any of the challenges that come with living here, and can jump to the front of the line for coveted tags and show up for a short time each fall just to reap the benefits of being able to afford buying property where they don’t reside.

 

[Treeshark]

8% can be a lot depending on what your talking about.

Where did 8% come from? 50 states don’t offer them, so that’s the wrong denominator.

 

[cgasner1]

Where did 8% come from? 50 states don’t offer them, so that’s the wrong denominator.

I’m a Simple man so I doubled the 4 states you mentioned and the 50. So that comes out to 8/100 with my simple math or 8%

 

[mtmuley]

Where did 8% come from? 50 states don’t offer them, so that’s the wrong denominator.

What do you want for Christmas? mtmuley

 

[Treeshark]

What do you want for Christmas? mtmuley

All I want for Christmas is for you to one of my posts instead of always ’ing at me.

I feel too, @mtmuley.