kiwi hunter
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my reading spells that he had to pay restitution also(might of been 20k)
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There was concern that shit like this would happen after changing the law. Here it is.Why I think changing the law to allow pickup heads to be possessed and plugged was a bad idea...
I don’t know that I disagree with you. It was just nice to pick up the head and get it plugged rather than have to walk away from it.Doesn't take many "bad apples" to really put the hurt on a limited resource like bighorn rams.
There was a good reason for the law in the first place, and because some feel they have to possess a dead head, rather than just leaving them lay, it opened the door for this type of thing.
It will happen again...and again...and again.
BTW, I agree that it would be nice to be able to pick up and keep one that died from natural causes, its not worth enough to me to be able to do so, to change the law and immediately start seeing an uptick in this type of chit.
The only reason that ram died was because there was a legal loop-hole for that poaching SOB to try to worm his way around the law.
Law needs to be changed back, IMO.
The ability to get a plug legitimizes it, and makes it able to be displayed, showed off, transported and I believe transferred/sold.
I like this logic a whole bunch. What are people willing to pay to kill any sheep they want? Then that’s your fine. Plus the 25% for being a dick.$4k isn’t enough.
$30k isn’t enough.
To poach means that you choose any animal that you’d like and kill it.
The privilege to do so legally is for sale in Reno every year.
The price of the prior year’s auction tag +25% would be a good start for all poaching offenses.
I absolutely agree.Why I think changing the law to allow pickup heads to be possessed and plugged was a bad idea...
my reading spells that he had to pay restitution also(might of been 20k)
Agreed.Anyone who doesn't believe the ability to pick up dead heads, regardless of species, provides an easy cover or poached animals needs their head examined. Wouldn't hurt my feelings to see it illegal across the board, period.
I am curious about the fine as well. Bighorn Sheep are trophy animals and don't have a qualification like deer, elk, and antelope do. I will follow up on this for sure.From the article in the Helena IR. "The sheep in question was estimated at 8 ½ years old but did not meet measurements to qualify for the record book under Boone and Crockett." So I am assuming it didn't qualify as a trophy under MT law? I don't know. Just speculating.
Like you said it definately encourages more poaching.10 year suspension and $4000 fine. You can kill a couple of them in the time it takes to draw a tag and for way less than it costs to buy a hunt. That light sentence probably does more to encourage than discourage poaching.
Agreed. Now to a poacher, a sheep tag only costs 4k instead of 30 to 40k if you go to Canada. They don't give a shit about losing their "privelage to hunt" they do it illegally anyway.I like this logic a whole bunch. What are people willing to pay to kill any sheep they want? Then that’s your fine. Plus the 25% for being a dick.
Like you said it definately encourages more poaching.
Agreed. Now to a poacher, a sheep tag only costs 4k instead of 30 to 40k if you go to Canada. They don't give a shit about losing their "privelage to hunt" they do it illegally anyway.
That'd be like giving a drug dealer a small fine and saying you lost your privelage to sell drugs... They don't care, they're doing it illegally anyway...
I'd like to see jail time and at least 30k fine asking with lifetime suspension of hunting rights. Then you're him up and let the hunt talkers have some time with him