Let’s Get Businesslike With Federal Lands

[BuzzH]

I have a hunch my Congress people won't be much help. One is an empty suit, another is a career politician who is unavailable to his constituents. The other is more interested in funny zingers than getting any work done.

Then find one that is.

I've found numerous sponsors for legislation that were not my Congress people. In fact, I don't think I've ever had one of my own Congress people sponsor any legislation I've recommended.

Its easy to avoid doing anything hard when you look for excuses not to.

 

[406dn]

This thread got me to thinking a little bit. Who among us balks at paying for our federal duck stamp. I'd venture to say none. If there were a Federal Lands Access Pass requirement for access to ANY federal wildlands, that could be an incredible source of funds. Some 325,000 million visit National Parks each year. Let's just say there are another 75 million who don't visit NPs but do use refuges, national forests and BLM lands. That's 400,000,000. Sell a $20 pass that lasts for three years. Let's say 25% are under the age of 12, so no pass required. 300,000,000 x 20 is 600,000,000 or 200,000,000 per year. Is that enough to make a positive difference? Would anyone balk over $7 per year to access our national treasures?

I'm not saying the idea is without merit, but your numbers are off, by an amount, I do not know.

When totaling visitation, every time an individual enters a park, it is counted as a visitor.

There are not 400 million citizens in the country. Not even a half the population enters a national park or national forest, even once, any given year. Also, your math on the numbers you cite, is wrong.

300,000,000 x20 is 6,000,000,000

 

[El Jason]

I wouldn't expect an individual person on a hunting forum to bear all the costs and commitments associated with it.

Got it. The .gov people should do the leg work for the “we the people”, even though they can’t do it on work time? Because DEI training took up so much time? How much time does a .gov employee spend each year on DEI training?

 

[Gulf of America]

Because DEI training took up so much time? How much time does a .gov employee spend each year on DEI training?

Dear leader says all their time each year.

 

[El Jason]

Dear leader says all their time each year.

Dog whistle politics at its finest

 

[rjthehunter]

Got it. The .gov people should do the leg work for the “we the people”, even though they can’t do it on work time? Because DEI training took up so much time? How much time does a .gov employee spend each year on DEI training?

Well, the department of education spent $1B on DEI trainings...

DOJ spent $100 million.

Not sure how many hours $1.1B covers, but it should be enough to implement a small fee to enter federal lands.

Those are just awesome ideas, too bad you didn't put any thought into it.

It's against the law for federal employees to push legislation on government time while doing their normal jobs.

The only exception is Union Representatives can lobby Congress, which I've done for about a dozen years now.

That's the trouble, people like you are so uninformed...and at the same time so lazy, you won't do anything for yourself. Its always someone's else's job to do the heavy lifting for you.

You have the same exact ability as I do to push for a user fee for public lands, and more ability than anyone trying to do it in their official capacity as a .gov employee.

I suggest you get after it.

LOL! So can federal employees be trolling hunting forums all day on government time while doing their normal jobs? Just curious.

Maybe it's time the government hires a few people to push real issues and instead of training on diversity hirings...

 

[El Jason]

Maybe it's time the government hires a few people to push real issues and instead of training on diversity hirings...

Are you still missing the fact the .gov employees are not allowed to lobby and/or promote legislation as part of their work?

An agency can testify to the impact of legislation, but they can’t promote anything.

Back to, isn’t the government for “we the people”? Do we need .gov employees to do it for us? Are we that lazy and apathetic?