Lab puppies available

[Hess6911]

I have 5 lap puppies available, in Idaho. They are 5 weeks this weekend. Charcoals and silvers. Both parents are akc registered. 3 males(2 charcoal 1 silver) and 2 females (1charcoal and 1 silver)
Pm for any questions

 

[Hess6911]

Also might be worth noting they will be socialized with small children as I have 6 all lovingly taking care of the pups

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

Chubby little dudes!

 

[Hess6911]

They’re pretty cute! Actually have 2 litters at home right now double doodles and these guys

 

[OntarioHunter]

That golden eyed black father is unusual. Kinda scary looking!

 

[Hess6911]

He’s a big puppy, just turned 3. He’s my travel buddy working in the woods.

 

[Hess6911]

Here is a picture of the little silver female

 

[Hess6911]

Silvers are spoken for but got 3 beautiful charcoals available still

 

[AlaskaHunter]

Have the parents been tested for EIC, hip displasia, Eye CERF/CAER, etc.?

 

[thomas89]

Have the parents been tested for EIC, hip displasia, Eye CERF/CAER, etc.?

I think you and I both know the answer to that one.

 

[Scott85]

Have the parents been tested for EIC, hip displasia, Eye CERF/CAER, etc.?

It’s a silver “lab”. AKC “registered” but doesn’t meet AKC breed standard.

 

[Hess6911]

My vet said to wait till 2. So the female is too young she’s 1 1/2 and I am getting the dad tested. Once work slows down and I’m not out of town all week everyweek

And for the silver and not meeting standards. Charcoals are recognized as black labs and registered as black. Silvers are a dilute from chocolate and are registered as such. We can go back and forth on whether or not silver and charcoal are pure bred. But at the end of the day akc allows for those colors to be registered so someone that knows genetics more than both of us deemed them genetically pure breed.

 

[AlaskaHunter]

My vet said to wait till 2. So the female is too young she’s 1 1/2 and I am getting the dad tested. Once work slows down and I’m not out of town all week everyweek

And for the silver and not meeting standards. Charcoals are recognized as black labs and registered as black. Silvers are a dilute from chocolate and are registered as such. We can go back and forth on whether or not silver and charcoal are pure bred. But at the end of the day akc allows for those colors to be registered so someone that knows genetics more than both of us deemed them genetically pure breed.

So your selling puppies with no health clearances.

in terms of potential genetic problems...hip displasia, EIC (Exercise Induced Collapse), etc.

My vet said to wait till 2. So the female is too young she’s 1 1/2 and I am getting the dad tested. Once work slows down and I’m not out of town all week everyweek

And for the silver and not meeting standards. Charcoals are recognized as black labs and registered as black. Silvers are a dilute from chocolate and are registered as such. We can go back and forth on whether or not silver and charcoal are pure bred. But at the end of the day akc allows for those colors to be registered so someone that knows genetics more than both of us deemed them genetically pure breed.

Age is irrelevant for genetic testing of parents prior to breeding.

 

[seeth07]

My vet said to wait till 2. So the female is too young she’s 1 1/2 and I am getting the dad tested

You bred a female at 1.5 years old? Shame on you

 

[Deleted member 52098]

This thread makes my blood boil a bit...

 

[thomas89]

You bred a female at 1.5 years old? Shame on you

You ever met a silver breeder that felt bad about what they’re peddling? I sure haven’t.

 

[Deleted member 52098]

And thats why Silvers all look a little slow and dumb. It just needs to stop

 

[Hess6911]

Age is irrelevant for genetic testing of parents prior to breeding.

The breeder I purchased my silver female from is a vet from Oregon and my local vet I take my animals too regularly, both stated to wait till 2. They put the animal under and will check every. I feel like I can take the advice from licensed vets stating the same thing over someone trolling. Both my animals have came from very reputable breeders, and have visited my vet frequently enough I have very little concerns.

You bred a female at 1.5 years old? Shame on you

If waiting longer than when most breeders I know begin breeding (1year old) makes you upset. then I suggest maybe never owning a registered dog?

 

[Frenchy]

Genetic tests can be done very early on pups. Even pre-weening, if you take precautions to not nurse the pup for a period of time prior to the testing. The genetic testing is a DNA test. Things like hips and elbows are more developmental, and require the puppy to reach maturity (2yo). Although the pennhip test that is becoming more prevalent can be performed much sooner than 2 years.

For me, aside from the charcoal and silver lab debate, there are lots of red flags popping up here.

 

[seeth07]

If waiting longer than when most breeders I know begin breeding (1year old) makes you upset. then I suggest maybe never owning a registered dog?

Most breeders you know? Clearly you are in the wrong group of breeders than. Responsible and ethical breeders get their sire/dam tested for genetic disorders pertaining to their breed AND get them OFA certified for hips and elbows if they are a sporting/working class dog. Since you can't submit the tests to OFA until 2 years of age, that basically means you can't breed the dog until 2. It is however common that since the 2nd heat cycle (you NEVER breed a dog on their first heat cycle) can occur right before 2 years old, you can do a pre-evaluation to see how the results are and apply for the OFA certification after the litter is born and the dog is now 2 years old. Its a small risk but its pretty common to occur and I wouldn't "red flag" a breeder for doing it. We chose to be responsible and breed our dogs on their 3rd heat cycle.