Just wondering, after the under armor conservation thread, I was wondering what has Kuiu done for conservation or how committed is their company to conservation? I know Sitka has done quite a bit, what has Kuiu done and how committed is Kuiu to conservation work?
Kuiu on conservation?
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airlocksniffer
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More importantly, where does Kuiu stand on public land? Conservation is great but not if there is no access.
I emailed them on the issue before ever supporting them. The response was "adamantly against it", I wish companies would make their stance more publicly known. I was glad to hear that but I haven't seen much on conservation from them like Sitka.
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airlocksniffer
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Good to hear. When Jason Hairston pals around with Don Peay, you have to wonder where they really stand.
http://onyourownadventures.com/hunttalk/showthread.php?t=266974
http://onyourownadventures.com/hunttalk/showthread.php?t=266974
I fear I may be the odd duck in the conversation, but here is another perspective for consideration.
I don't care what their position is on conservation, unless they were to come out and have a very strong anti-hunting message. They make clothes, they don't solve social issues. I think we often mix the two ideas together, take for example Patagonia (Are they a clothing company or an advocacy group?)
Regarding Patagonia... I have used there clothes for many years, and always loved the products. However, recently I believe they have become so strong minded and involved in all these social issues, they forgot what they once were (a clothing company). I now find myself avoiding their products, because I can't stand all the "stigmas" associated with them.
I don't care what their position is on conservation, unless they were to come out and have a very strong anti-hunting message. They make clothes, they don't solve social issues. I think we often mix the two ideas together, take for example Patagonia (Are they a clothing company or an advocacy group?)
Regarding Patagonia... I have used there clothes for many years, and always loved the products. However, recently I believe they have become so strong minded and involved in all these social issues, they forgot what they once were (a clothing company). I now find myself avoiding their products, because I can't stand all the "stigmas" associated with them.
Schaaf
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I understand your opinion but you have to remember that Kuiu makes HUNTING clothes. With that being the case I believe they not only have a moral obligation to fight for their customer's best interests but also a financial obligation. If there wasn't sound conservation and public land I doubt companies like Kuiu would be what they are today.
It certainly is an interesting discussion, so I like to see others opinions. I would say that I agree that companies should feel some moral obligation to the industry that builds them up, but I guess I can't say that I feel like they have a financial obligation. I believe you buy the clothes because you like them and feel their asking price is fair... not because you believe they should also be using that money for some other good (it's a great thought, but I don't believe it's an obligation).
Thanks for the interesting discussion... work is slow today!
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Personally I try to buy things I like from retailers who support conservation when it comes to my hunting gear. It shows commitment to the lifestyle that keeps them in business and I respect a company for that commitment.
jryoung
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I guess as a hunter and an angler I’ve always been a fan of giving back to the greater good. Through PR/DJ funds to licenses and tags, and local conservation fundraisers, I have no problem shouldering a financial load if it can help ensure a vibrant future for hunting, fishing, wildlife and public lands. I think it was the First Lite guys that said on a Podcast, if we don’t have wild places to hunt in, what’s the purpose of high tech, high performance gear? In addition as a sub-culture I think we do need to go the extra mile as consumers and business to maintain support from a much broader based. Conservation funding from hunters and anglers is a keystone component of maintaining our acceptance. Sustenance hunting, and conservation funding are the two aspects of hunting that poll incredibly high with non-hunters.
IlliniFIre
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So I get the want for a "moral obligation" but I also look at things from the economic angle. If you are talking about a public company, then they foremost have an obligation to the shareholders. In the case of something like KUIU, there can be a duality to it I suppose. If the company is upfront that a commitment to conservation, then it can attract investors in that fashion as well. I guess that I'm saying that "moral obligations" are fine and good as long as they don't screw with the bottom line. After all, if the bottom line isn't met, then there is no profit to go towards the obligations.
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