January Inflation

[JAG]

What suspicions?

Not yours:

"I suspect that Montana's oil usage per capita is higher than Canada's per capita consumption."

 

[brymoore]

Hah! You completely skipped my comments... surprisingly we mostly agree about this admin's activity related to Canada, I'll save you the hassle reading back, x pages...




Next subject you are clearly not aware:

Canada / U.S. exports to each other: Primarily, U.S. exports sweet crude whereas Canada exports sour crude. U.S. accepts the sour crude as we have refineries that use the cheaper sour crude and refinaries already in place to reduce the sulfer content.

Canada values U.S. export of sweet crude as they need it. Sweet holds value for gas, diesel, and aviation fuel that their primary sour is unable to accomplish w/o extreme refining that U.S. already has functioning, etc.

Not only that, though the jobs their export of sour crude to U.S. is significant.

Sigh.

 

[406dn]

@brymoore 's statistics confirm your suspicion is likely incorrect. Do you have any stats beyond what may be a reasonable hunch?

Actually, I looked it up after the fact, and my suspicion is correct. You can look it up, if you are interested enough. There are quite a few states with higher oil consumption per capital, compared to Canada. The states that bring down the average are states, similar to New York, states, with big urban centers.

 

[SAJ-99]

Actually, I looked it up after the fact, and my suspicion is correct. You can look it up, if you are interested enough. There are quite a few states with higher oil consumption per capital, compared to Canada. The states that bring down the average are states, similar to New York, states, with big urban centers.

This is a dumb discussion. Two things can be true. It’s diesel.

Back to the regular program.

https://dailymontanan.com/2025/04/23/montana-farmers-union-seeks-to-join-lawsuit-against-tariffs-on-canada/

 

[LopeHunter]

For now, Trump keeps pushing peace without war. He seems to have his own ideas about how to do that.

We are not yet privy to the nuances of the ideas he's using with Putin, but on the surface, it appears that a contextual array of 1) monetary investments in Ukraine, 2) the tariff war, and 3) sanctions are being used to leverage an economic advantage that will erode Russia's interest in pursuing the war.

With respect to your objection, it's too early to decide if this will not result in US troop involvement since Putin keeps defaulting on cease-fire agreements.

Edit: I had to look up your $20 word , neoliberalism; I like it too:

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What is the amount of Tariff that was placed on Russia? America did $3 billion of trade with Russia. So, just using what was levied on imports from Canada would be a start. But, China might be a better comparison. Let’s see. Using the formula which Trump explained then 40% would be needed. Google says, hmmm, no tariff. 0%. Gee, that will send a message, for sure.

 

[JAG]

What is the amount of Tariff that was placed on Russia? America did $3 billion of trade with Russia. So, just using what was levied on imports from Canada would be a start. But, China might be a better comparison. Let’s see. Using the formula which Trump explained then 40% would be needed. Google says, hmmm, no tariff. 0%. Gee, that will send a message, for sure.

Russia not on Trump's tariff list

US media quotes the White House press secretary as saying this is because of sanctions on Moscow.

www.bbc.com

There are sanctions in place, and no meaningful trade currently exists with Russia.

 

[JAG]

War? Seriously.

Oddly, protectionism seems most popular on the far right and far left. The right screams about Socialism and the left screams about inequality. I kind of wish they could form their own party. Most of us quite enjoy neoliberalism.

Yes, Biden attacked Yemen, too. He sent billions of dollars to Ukraine and stuck his head in the sand.

It's almost like they were waiting for Trump to win the election so they could avoid being blamed for starting WWIII. The current administration continues to push peace at all costs, but instead of a head-in-the-sand approach, there's an active dialogue—bizarre but active.

 

[SAJ-99]

Yes, Biden attacked Yemen, too. He sent billions of dollars to Ukraine and stuck his head in the sand.

It's almost like they were waiting for Trump to win the election so they could avoid being blamed for starting WWIII. The current administration continues to push peace at all costs, but instead of a head-in-the-sand approach, there's an active dialogue—bizarre but active.

I can see why your daughter has trouble talking with you about this stuff.

 

[Sytes]

Sigh.

Same here. I've enjoyed our prior conversations and typically appreciated your perspectives, specifically on economic related issues.

I took a couple days off from Hunt Talk because I am not a fan of elevated debates, I felt I was the person who increased our "debate" to a personal level with the meme and I am typically firmly against personalizing debates. It's pitiful and sours quality debate.

I apologize for elevating the debate. I believe we are at a position of agreeing to disagree.

I've not checked to see how many pages this thread has expanded since my days away, though believe this post is relevant to soften our position.

Best to you. Hope no hard feeling result from this and if so, hopefully this post eases any tension.

 

[brymoore]

Same here. I've enjoyed our prior conversations and typically appreciated your perspectives, specifically on economic related issues.

I took a couple days off from Hunt Talk because I am not a fan of elevated debates, I felt I was the person who increased our "debate" to a personal level with the meme and I am typically firmly against personalizing debates. It's pitiful and sours quality debate.

I apologize for elevating the debate. I believe we are at a position of agreeing to disagree.

I've not checked to see how many pages this thread has expanded since my days away, though believe this post is relevant to soften our position.

Best to you. Hope no hard feeling result from this and if so, hopefully this post eases any tension.

In the back of my mind I try to remember that these written conversations would be interpreted much differently if we were talking in person being able to read body language and exchange thoughts quickly.

I meant no harm and don’t hold grudges.

Enjoy your Sunday.

 

[JAG]

I can see why your daughter has trouble talking with you about this stuff.

You’re right. I have this quality where I start with good intentions, gather information, and screw it up with an unfair claim from the top rope.

I could have defended my comments by saying it is offensive to think and offensive to accept truth, but that in itself is unfair and passive aggressive. This shitty posture suggests you don’t care about truth without expressly saying it.

It would have been unfair because you do care about truth, honest dialogue, and have a great amount of discernment.

I agree it’s twisted and I’m trying to purge it with more consistency and better questions instead of coming from left field. I’m sorry for this and I’m sorry you had to be on the receiving end of my dark side. Thanks for calling me out.