SAJ-99
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It is a method for writers. It doesn't matter the subject. It could be an article on the NRA website or Brietbart, or Wash Post or NYT. A reader is more likely to take action if the story is more personal.
Interesting......
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Uphill battle. mtmuley
SAJ-99
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So give up? Interesting philosophy.
Give up what? What "philosophy"? mtmuley
SAJ-99
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So I admit that we may have went in opposite directions here. Your tendency to answer in fragmented sentences is probably the reason. If you want to go back and explain what is the “uphill battle” maybe we can get back on track.
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longbow51
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I shoot copper anyway so don't really have a dog in the fight. There is zero evidence, though, that ingesting big game shot with lead bullets has resulted in elevated lead levels in humans, which was implied in the article.
jryoung
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Interesting use of the word zero when there are several studies indicating the contrary.
OntarioHunter
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Really? Let's see them. Unless one has dentures made of steel, I can't see how enough bullet fragments or lead pellets could be ingested to reach toxic levels. The stuff goes through our digestive system too quickly. Look at what happened in Flint, Michigan. Those poor folks were consuming lead contaminated water on a daily basis for a very long period and only small children and pets were detrimentally affected. As I recall, no one died. The scandal involved all the governments - local, state, and federal - ignoring the treatment plant contamination long after it was discovered. A huge cover up that eventually sent some officials to jail and cost one of George W's cabinet her job. She's lucky she didn't end up in prison.
Irrelevant
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Wild Meat Raises Lead Exposure
Tests by the CDC show that eating venison and other game can raise the amounts of lead in human bodies by 50 percent
"Death" is not the overly concerning part of lead exposure. This risk of dying from lead poisoning due to eating wild game is extremely low. But having slightly dumber kids is a real risk.
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rwc101
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I don't claim to know enough to make any definitive statements on the subject, but I'm leaning towards better safe than sorry.
Fake noose.
MTLabrador
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Elkmagnet
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California tightens rules on rat poisons that kill wildlife
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Gov. Gavin Newsom on Tuesday signed a bill widely restricting the use of certain highly potent rat poisons that are blamed for killing mountain lions, birds and endangered wildlife.
apnews.com
Well its California, I should’ve known.California tightens rules on rat poisons that kill wildlife
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Gov. Gavin Newsom on Tuesday signed a bill widely restricting the use of certain highly potent rat poisons that are blamed for killing mountain lions, birds and endangered wildlife.
Hunting Wife
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Primary literature for those interested:
www.sciencedirect.com
link.springer.com
www.semanticscholar.org
Acute and even chronic lead exposure rarely leads to death. But it can lead to permanent, irreversible:
Cardiovascular damage
Kidney damage
Liver damage
Brain damage
Nerve damage
Reproductive dysfunction
Birth defects
Additionally, it does not pass rapidly from the body as suggested above. Lead toxicity is cumulative. It is sequestered in bones and teeth and accumulates over time. It is then released slowly over time into the blood stream, which is why it is a particular concern for pregnant women and is a significant exposure to the developing fetus. Simply saying if it doesn’t kill you outright, there’s nothing to worry about is pretty ignorant.
If you are an old guy with no other routes of lead exposure, you probably have little to worry about. If, however, you have additional routes of exposure, you are trying to start a family or have small children, you might not be so blasé about it. Either way, it doesn’t hurt for people to assess the risks and decide for themselves what ammo they are comfortable using.
www.mayoclinic.org
www.merckmanuals.com
Hunting with lead: Association between blood lead levels and wild game consumption
Wild game hunting is a popular activity in many regions of the United States. Recently, the presence of lead fragments in wild game meat, presumably f…
Risks to human health from ammunition-derived lead in Europe - Ambio
It has been known for centuries that lead is toxic to humans. Chronic exposure to lead, even at low levels, is associated with an elevated risk of cardiovascular and chronic kidney disease in adults and of impaired neurodevelopment and subsequent cognitive and behavioural development in the...
link.springer.com
Lead exposure through consumption of big game meat in Quebec, Canada: risk assessment and perception | Semantic Scholar
The consumption of meat from cervids killed with lead ammunition may increase lead exposure and its associated health risks and it would be important to inform the population, particularly hunters, about this potential risk and promote the use of lead-free ammunition. Game meat from animals...
www.semanticscholar.org
Acute and even chronic lead exposure rarely leads to death. But it can lead to permanent, irreversible:
Cardiovascular damage
Kidney damage
Liver damage
Brain damage
Nerve damage
Reproductive dysfunction
Birth defects
Additionally, it does not pass rapidly from the body as suggested above. Lead toxicity is cumulative. It is sequestered in bones and teeth and accumulates over time. It is then released slowly over time into the blood stream, which is why it is a particular concern for pregnant women and is a significant exposure to the developing fetus. Simply saying if it doesn’t kill you outright, there’s nothing to worry about is pretty ignorant.
If you are an old guy with no other routes of lead exposure, you probably have little to worry about. If, however, you have additional routes of exposure, you are trying to start a family or have small children, you might not be so blasé about it. Either way, it doesn’t hurt for people to assess the risks and decide for themselves what ammo they are comfortable using.
Lead poisoning: Spot symptoms and limit exposure-Lead poisoning - Symptoms & causes - Mayo Clinic
Learn about lead poisoning symptoms and treatment of lead exposure in children and adults. Explore ways to keep your kids safe from lead exposure.
www.mayoclinic.org
Lead Poisoning - Lead Poisoning - Merck Manual Professional Edition
Lead Poisoning - Etiology, pathophysiology, symptoms, signs, diagnosis & prognosis from the Merck Manuals - Medical Professional Version.
noharleyyet
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Imma pay HW to do all the term papers that SAJ-99 assigns from now on.....Primary literature for those interested:
Hunting with lead: Association between blood lead levels and wild game consumption
Wild game hunting is a popular activity in many regions of the United States. Recently, the presence of lead fragments in wild game meat, presumably f…
Risks to human health from ammunition-derived lead in Europe - Ambio
It has been known for centuries that lead is toxic to humans. Chronic exposure to lead, even at low levels, is associated with an elevated risk of cardiovascular and chronic kidney disease in adults and of impaired neurodevelopment and subsequent cognitive and behavioural development in the...
Lead exposure through consumption of big game meat in Quebec, Canada: risk assessment and perception | Semantic Scholar
The consumption of meat from cervids killed with lead ammunition may increase lead exposure and its associated health risks and it would be important to inform the population, particularly hunters, about this potential risk and promote the use of lead-free ammunition. Game meat from animals...
Acute and even chronic lead exposure rarely leads to death. But it can lead to permanent, irreversible:
Cardiovascular damage
Kidney damage
Liver damage
Brain damage
Nerve damage
Reproductive dysfunction
Birth defects
Additionally, it does not pass rapidly from the body as suggested above. Lead toxicity is cumulative. It is sequestered in bones and teeth and accumulates over time. It is then released slowly over time into the blood stream, which is why it is a particular concern for pregnant women and is a significant exposure to the developing fetus. Simply saying if it doesn’t kill you outright, there’s nothing to worry about is pretty ignorant.
If you are an old guy with no other routes of lead exposure, you probably have little to worry about. If, however, you have additional routes of exposure, you are trying to start a family or have small children, you might not be so blasé about it. Either way, it doesn’t hurt for people to assess the risks and decide for themselves what ammo they are comfortable using.
Lead poisoning: Spot symptoms and limit exposure-Lead poisoning - Symptoms & causes - Mayo Clinic
Learn about lead poisoning symptoms and treatment of lead exposure in children and adults. Explore ways to keep your kids safe from lead exposure.
Lead Poisoning - Lead Poisoning - Merck Manual Professional Edition
Lead Poisoning - Etiology, pathophysiology, symptoms, signs, diagnosis & prognosis from the Merck Manuals - Medical Professional Version.
Irrelevant
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Stop right there! Everybody knows that POMBS, Primary Old Man BS, Trumps (yes I went there) anything that damn Mayonaise clinic says!
@Hunting Wife is spot on.
It’s a funny world we live in where we eat lead with impunity, glorify overconsumption of alcohol and refuse to take a vaccine because of what might be in it.
It’s a funny world we live in where we eat lead with impunity, glorify overconsumption of alcohol and refuse to take a vaccine because of what might be in it.
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