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Migrant traffic shuts nature area Security concerns cited for Buenos Aires border land

Corinne Purtill
The Arizona Republic
Oct. 13, 2006 12:00 AM

For the second time, protected land on Arizona's border with Mexico has closed to the public because of security concerns surrounding illegal immigration.

Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge closed 3,500 acres earlier this month, officials there announced this week.

Violence against immigrants and law enforcement officers is increasing on the refuge, which shares a 5.5-mile border with Mexico. The Border Patrol, National Guard and federal law enforcement officers stationed there have stepped up efforts in response. A metal vehicle barrier on the border is under construction.

As a result, "it's just not a good place for people to be recreating right now," refuge manager Mitch Ellis said. "It's a crazy place to be."

Emergency closures at wildlife refuges are usually prompted by natural disasters like floods and last 30 days or less. But since the conditions that prompted the Buenos Aires closure show no signs of improving, the land will be indefinitely inaccessible to the public.

Originally established as a haven for the meek-mannered masked bobwhite quail, the 118,000-acre refuge has been ravaged by illegal-immigrant traffic in recent years.

More than 250,000 illegal immigrants entered the refuge in 2004 and 2005. Their footsteps and vehicles have cut more than 1,300 miles of trails through the native grassland, some of which could take more than a century to recover. The landscape is dotted with rusting, abandoned vehicles and tons of clothing and trash.

More than 85 percent of land along Arizona's border with Mexico is federal land. Buenos Aires is the second public space that has had to close because of problems with illegal immigration.

About one-third of Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument remains closed to the public for security reasons since a park ranger was killed by a drug smuggler there in 2002.

Those familiar with the refuge said the closure is a sad but necessary step.

"We hate to see areas get closed, but we have such a problem close to the border that we don't want to put our hunters' lives in danger," said Gabriel Paz, an officer with the Arizona Game and Fish Department and organizer of a volunteer group that picks up trash at the refuge.
 
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I don't care about the environment and Country as much as you like mexicans......

But really, I must have been gonig through a tunnel cuz all I got out of your post was Static again. Tiem to post more on the Fat chicks I see :rolleyes:
 
cjcj, maybe it's time to stop posting on Moosie's site. It seems he doesn't want to have anything posted on here that has to do with people coming into our country illegally. I thought the article you posted was very relevant to "Sportsman's Issues." Apparently, as Moosie says, he didn't even take the time to read the first sentence of the article. If this isn't an issue that sportsmen should be made aware of then I don't know what is. I'm getting pretty sick of Moosie not caring about our country and in particular issues that affect sportsmen. I'd think somebody who is or was the president of the Idaho Deer Hunter's would care more about this type of issue. Why don't you try posting this on www.24hourcampfire.com. Much better site there with many more knowledgeable SPORTSMEN than here at this stupid wannabe site. Hunt Talk really is a joke and it's only getting worse.
 
Well W.H. all that Papa Moosie has to do is "tell me to stop" and I will respect his site.

I sure hope that he doesn`t plan on ever hunting Coues deer down south someday! not sure he would like what he and his sons might see.

Plenty of Hunttalkers have been very supportive of My postings and most understand the gravity of the situation. I`m glad that younger guys like yourself have a passion for the rule of law and want to preserve the future for "ALL" hunters and outdoorsmen.

Thanks for the huntsite address, I will spread the word to them and any other site that doesn`t run from the truth.

But its Moosie`s site... Maybe he should put up a "POLL" and ask if everyone wants me to stop posting, about illegals?
 
Washington Hunter... Your feelings get hurt because I don't hate Illegals ?

Much better site there with many more knowledgeable SPORTSMEN than here at this stupid wannabe site.

HAHA. Tel Rick Bin (Who owns 24hour, YAh, I know them all) you went over there because Your feelings got hurt from Moosie's stupid site. He'll lend you a tissue. He's good people for sure. Then Ask him were he goes to get away from the Boring people, He'll tell you HuntTalk.com.

I'm getting pretty sick of Moosie not caring about our country

Funny how when people don't see thing other peoples way they say stuff like that. And jsut because you see the Planes flying over head, it doesn't mean they are after you :D :D

... GOOD post CJCJ, Kick ass replies too !!! ;)

For anyone wanting to leave hunttalk and Go see a real HuntSite, Please post at this link :

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1040269&an=0&page=0#1040269

..... And I thought "knowledgeable SPORTSMEN " had thinker skin, Go figure ?!?!?!??!
 
WH and cjcj, You can't expect some flip-flop, weird hat, pan wearing, tiny buck shootin' wannabe hunter to take stuff like illegal immigration seriously.:D If there's ever an embargo on pink flip-flops from China he'll probably go ballistic, but not over a little issue like thousands of illegals closing a wildlife refuge established to protect endangered quail. Maybe if those wetbacks start wearing silly costumes when they're swimming across the Rio Grande he'll take some interest.:rolleyes:

Keep up the good work and don't get discouraged. You've singlehandedly turned illegal immigration into a national election issue!:)

Moosie, Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not after me!:D
 
... GOOD post CJCJ, Kick ass replies too !!!
i agree, it was a good post.
but your reply sucks.


cjcj, maybe it's time to stop posting on Moosie's site.
dude, are you crying?
there's no crying at hunttalk.
 
JB, I think we need to implement the "Swinging DOOR" rule again

here's how they normally look when leaving:
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Well I've been hunting the last couple of days so wasn't able to check in here, and yes I cried all weekend over getting my poor little feelings hurt by big bad Moosie. :(

I really don't have much more to say on this. I just wonder...Moosie do you have anything more intelligent to say other than "blah blah blah?" Why is it that you don't think the issue cjcj posted is not relevant to the Sportsmen's Issue's forum? If this issue isn't worthy of Sportsmen's Issues, then what is? :confused:
 
W.H. , I'm not a Political Guy and Don't look much into political stuff. As far as much itele-jent stuff to say I don't have huch, Hell, you've known me long enough to know that :D :D

Yah unlike other boards, You can Rib me or call me an A$$-munch, I figure Everyone has the right to their opinion...

The whole topic above was about safety to the People, then had 2 parts that talked about the Wildlife. Having illegals come accross the boarder does no more damage then the ATV drivers tearing chit up. Both cause problems , both I can't do much about.

I think it's cool that cjcj is so passionate about illegals and mexicans. Everyone should have somethnig to do.

Jsut remember, when all CJCJ posts is about illegals and some very funny to boot, He's gonig to get made fun of. When you come posting and Cry like a Whiner and little sore looser, you'll get made fun of too :D :D
 
Hey flip flop wearing faggot, i used to hunt in that spot and killed my only archery mule deer there. There is some real nice bucks and a lot of deer there. It was a great place to hunt in the middle of January with an over the counter tag. Now because of some violent crime assholes, border hoppers and drug smugglers, and a government that wont do anything about it, and fags like you who think its funny, we all lost a great place to hunt. You really think your funny but when you show your such a dumb )#$(*))@, who owns his own hunting website thinks it's funny that someone cares that we lost 3,500 acres of prime mule deer hunting you really look like an ass. Maybe you dont care about the illegals but you should care about losing Mule deer hunting grounds.
 
schmalts said:
really think your funny but when you show your such a dumb )#$(*))@ who owns his own hunting website thinks it's funny that someone cares that we lost 3,500 acres of prime mule deer hunting you really look like an ass.

Hey Schmalts,
How many thousands of acres of prime mule deer habitat and hunting areas have we lost due to your President wanting to drill every square mile of Wyoming? You really look like an ass when you worry about 3500 acres in AZ when the rest of the West is losing way more than that every time they approve another drill permit. You're paranoid about the wrong things if you care about hunting. If you care about being a racist, keep worrying about CJ's multiple paranoias.....
 
Hey Jose you tardo ****head beaner posing buttfucker, you really looked like an idiot on that post. You say no one should worry about losing 3500 acres of prime hunting for any reason at all? I worry about any acres lost for hunting, no matter what the size.
Hey Jose, suck my @#)(# you faggot. If i saw your alter ego crossing the border in one of my hunting spots i would put a 300 win mag in your $*)Q!#@$ chest and spit on your face as you bled out because your a worthless pile of shit that sucks @#)(# because you like the taste. Just joking, but i know you like the taste
Sorry, maybe i was out of line but hey, lets all talk stupid now that we think that losing hunting spots is something to make fun of.
 
schmalts said:
. Now because of some violent crime assholes, border hoppers and drug smugglers, and a government that wont do anything about it, and fags like you who think its funny, we all lost a great place to hunt. .
Joser, your even to $*)Q!#@$ dumb to see when i rip on Bush
 
Schmalts must be taking the Viagra pills again and no one home to screw :)

You're right Schmalts, I looked like a Dumbass in my post !!! You're comment was alot better !!!

Hey Jose you tardo ****head beaner posing buttfucker, you really looked like an idiot on that post. You say no one should worry about losing 3500 acres of prime hunting for any reason at all? I worry about any acres lost for hunting, no matter what the size.
Hey Jose, suck my @#)(# you faggot. If i saw your alter ego crossing the border in one of my hunting spots i would put a 300 win mag in your $*)Q!#@$ chest and spit on your face as you bled out because your a worthless pile of shit that sucks @#)(# because you like the taste. Just joking, but i know you like the taste

I don't see you that mad when a Developer comes into town and knocks out thousands of acres for developement.... I don't have time to worry about all of the Habitat isues. You and CJCJ cuss and rant and rave about the Mexicans in AZ. I'll keep on my battle local were I think I can actually acomplish something. Remind me again what you're doing to help the environment besides planting a Grass patch you can kill does off of ?!?!

Yep, I looked like the silly one ;)
 

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