HD 331-50 (Ruby) Either Sex Moose Permit

[JMG]

Well, I didn't want to highjack BigSky2's thread and did reach out to him in a Private Message (PM).

My youngest son (17 years old and a Senior in High School) was fortunate enough to draw an either sex moose permit for the Gravallies/Snowcrest Mtns - Ruby river area). I have rifle hunted this area for several years and archery hunted the area on a few occasions, so I am somewhat familiar with the area. With that being said, I am reaching out to anyone who knows the area or will be archery and/or rifle hunting this area this coming fall. I am respectfully asking for any information you may have or gain during the archery and/or rifle season.

You all may find this ironic, but to put it into perspective . . . . My oldest son was fortunate enough to draw an either sex bull elk permit in HD 410 and now my youngest son has drawn an either sex moose permit for south of Virginia City. As with anyone, time away from job and school is going to present some challenges. To be honest, I'm not too concerned about the bull elk permit, because I know the Breaks pretty well (nothing is a guarantee though). This is why I am asking for any help with sightings, etc. for moose. This may very well be a once in a lifetime moose hunting opportunity with my son and I want to make the most of it.

So, again, if any of you have any information on the whereabouts of moose (preferribly a bull moose), I would be very thankful to you. I will be doing my research on moose in this hunting district (contact biologist, FWP personnel, Forest Service, etc.) as expected of any responsible hunter/father/guide. You can get in contact with me via the private message feature on this site.

Thank you in advance. This is some "problem" to have. I can't keep smiling for him. Wow!

Thanks, again.

 

[Gerald Martin]

Wow! Congrats JMG! Our family has similar good fortune issues. Olivia and I drew 700 bull elk permits and my wife drew moose in the next unit over from your son. Good luck with your search. I've seen a lot of moose in there in the past, but haven't hunted it much in Sept in the last five years. Congrats!

 

[dmandoes]

hey gerald; ur mail box is full. if ur hunting moose in 330, i can help point u to a few places.

 

[BlakeA]

Congrats on the tags! Your family is going to have some fun days in the field this fall. Good Luck!

 

[Gerald Martin]

thanks for the heads up dmandoes. My wife drew 332 so I don't know if you have info for that unit but thanks for the offer.

 

[MTlionchaser]

thanks for the heads up dmandoes. My wife drew 332 so I don't know if you have info for that unit but thanks for the offer.

Had that tag 2 years ago. Great Tag!!

 

[Horn Seeker]

Wow Jim!! Soooo cool!
Fantastic unit though I don't have specific info for it!
Wow Gerald!! Sooo cool! I suspect you don't need a ton of help on that moose unit!!!

 

[JMG]

Well, first off I would like to thank all those who sent me private messages (PM) and gave past locations of moose. It is very much appreciated. I did my homework in preparation of this moose hunt. I contacted the FWP Biologist, FWP Game Warden, and one Ranch Manager. I watched a lot of YouTube videos on the various moose hunts, moose calling, how to gut a moose, etc. A lot of good information from all sources.

Well it all started when my son got the letter in the mail that he was successful in drawing an either sex moose permit in HD 331-50. A few days later we would go and purchase the actual moose permit.




My youngest son and I headed out after school got out last Friday (September 22nd) in the rain, here in Billings. As we traveled the interstate towards Bozeman, Whitehall, Twin Bridges and then Alder, it was very apparent that we were going to be hunting in snow at the higher elevations. I had looked ahead at the weather reports earlier in the week and decided we were not going to take the wall tent and set it up in the rain/snow for just a day and a half moose hunting trip. So, I had booked us a motel room in Alder, MT. I had planned on taking the ATVs so we could drive around on them a lot easier than in a truck.

 

[JMG]

Saturday, September 23rd

Woke up at 5:00 AM and headed out down along the Ruby River road at about 5:30 AM. We drove to the Vigilante Guard Station/campground and parked the truck and unloaded the ATVs and transferred some gear and rifles. I decided to take my rifle in case we saw a black bear and/or wolf. The Ruby River (main) road was muddy and just sloppy and slippery in spots. We traveled the main road and turned the ATVs up the Cottonwood Creek road, there we met a guy in a truck that had just turned around after cautious attempt up the hill. He decided that it was just too slick to try and get up the hill. The ATVs made it with little effort. We got up to the weather station where I wanted to use the binoculars to look over the large aspen stands.



As we head up Cottonwood Creek towards the campground and ultimately the area below Black Butte, it became apparent that we were the only people/vehicles past the campground. I thought this was a good thing, since I imagined we had the whole place to ourselves. The higher up, the deeper the snow. We were seeing a lot of deer tracks and then we cut a set of moose tracks. We parked the ATVs and started following the one set of tracks as they headed down into Cottonwood Creek. The snow in some areas was thigh deep with most being anywhere from a foot to six inches. The moose tracks followed Cottonwood Creek and then crossed in a very "swampy"/beaver pond looking area. We decided not to follow, because we were certain we would end up with water over our Schnees and/or gaiters. We climbed back up the hill to the ATVs (that turned out to be about a 2 mile hike) and continued up towards the Gravelly Range Road. We turned around just prior to reaching the top. We wanted to check out some other areas down below. The sun was trying to peak out as we descended back into the clouds.






When we got down to the main road, we turned south. As we would pass trucks or camp sites, I would stop to ask whomever if they saw any moose. We came across 5 other people that were also moose hunting, which made 6 including my son. Wow! We continued on and drove up three different "spur" roads and glassed and did some walking in to different areas. No moose ... a couple of reports of cow moose up so and so trail. By now the rain/snow had stopped and each "spur" road was tore up from the archery/moose hunters driving to end of each road. I was glad to have the ATVs as we could navigate the road easier and a little quicker. As we were headed towards the Eureka Basin road, we came across one of the sheep herders. I always like to stop and speak to them, as they live in the country all summer and into the fall. I asked the guy if he had seen any moose and he responded (in broken English) that he had seen a "big moose" up on top, yesterday. He asked if we spoke any Spanish and I told him my son spoke some (those two years. The sheep herder and he conversed a little more and my stated that he just said the same thing only in Spanish. We drove to the top along the Eureka Basin road (where you can get cell phone coverage) and parked at the cattle guard and walked in about a mile and a half. We had gotten back into the snow and there were human tracks everywhere. I think the archery hunters and a couple of "moose" hunters had tried this same area. We got to a vantage point and started glassing into Coal Creek. I spotted a guy on a horse with another (empty) horse following. The guy appeared to be combing a particular area (not sure why). No moose.

By this time it was about 3:30 in the afternoon and we decided to drive back to the truck and load up and check out one or two more locations on our way back to Alder. I had an area I thought may be beneficial that we would try in the morning (little did I know plans can change very quickly).

As we finished up loading the ATVs there was a three older (archery) hunters sitting in camp enjoying some beer. My son and I walked up and asked them if they had seen and moose and they said, "Yes, one big one ... a definite shooter". We got a description of where they saw this "big moose" and drove to the area. No "big moose". It became apparent that we were on the wrong road, so we got ourselves situated and headed for the correct area. As we got to the area, we came upon another truck with a man and wife. I stopped next to them and asked them if they had seen any moose and they said, "Yes, right back there about a mile and a half ... a cow and a big bull .... You drove right past them". I quickly figured out that the moose were on private property. We turned around with the goal being that we wanted to just see a moose and just how big is a "big moose"? We came to the location of the cow and bull and sure enough one big bull moose (I would guess 45"+) standing broadside, no care in the world about 150 yards off the road on private property.



We stood there looking at the bull for a good 10 minutes with the bull not moving an inch. I decided it would not hurt to go and start knocking on doors (I checked my GPS unit to check the ownership name). As we traveled a little distance down the road, we encountered a guy with a horse trailer doing something with the horses. I told him that my son had a moose permit and there was a big moose over the hill and if he was or knew who the landowner was. He stated he was not the owner, but knew where they lived. He said, "You had better get going since it will be getting dark soon". We drove to the house and knocked on the door and got invited in. We told the folks in the house my son had a moose permit and that there was a big bull moose on his property. He hesitated and stated that the "recreational" rights (outfitted) were leased out to someone else. The guy’s niece and nephew were sitting there and said to just call the guy and ask if he didn't mine us hunting a moose. Well, the guy got a hold of someone who had to get a hold of someone else who knew how to get a hold of the guy with the "recreational" rights. The landowner hung up the phone and told us we would have to wait a little bit, so we had some conversation (all the while I was looking at my watch as the sun is getting lower in the sky). The phone rang and the guy had a conversation with whoever was on the other end and the conversation ended with him say, "... well they're probably going to rip the hinges off my door when I tell them". Thank God for generous landowners, we got permission. The landowner wanted to come along to make sure we were describing his property ... when we got there ... no moose ... the landowner returned home and my son grabbed the rifle and we went looking for "Mr. Big". We were making our way through the willows (my son leading) and I spotted legs just off to our right in an opening and behind some large willows. We eased out from behind the willows and sure enough there was "Mr. Big" and his girlfriend. The bull was slightly quartering towards us at +/- 75 yards. My son didn't like the angle and was trying to get the bipod legs out to get a more steady shot and ultimately a more accurate shot. The bull was getting nervous and then shifted his body, so he was looking straight at us. My son did not like the shot and waited ... the bull turned quickly and trotted forward and got some willows between us and him/them. We advanced to another location where we figured that the bull may present another shot . . . . nothing . . . . gone. The bull and cow disappeared into the willow to never be seen again. We were a little disappointed with not getting "Mr. Big", but I was confident my son made the right decision not shooting the bull at that angle. We made a small loop through the willows and other openings hoping to see the moose, but it wasn't so. We made our way back to the road/truck and we walked up the hill to gain elevation to see if we could get a view of the area and maybe the moose. No such luck. It was now after shooting light. On the way "out" we stopped at the ranch house to thank the landowner and ask if he would allow us to come back in the morning to see if can spot the moose and hunt again first thing. He said, "Yes". Now we definitely knew what our plans were for tomorrow.

 

[JMG]

Sunday, September 24th

We woke up at 5:30 AM and got to the hill, in the dark, that overlooked the private property where moose where the evening before. My son was asleep and I watched and waited as the darkness eased and figure gave way to black "moo cows". The lighter it got the more I was hoping to get a sighting of "Mr. Big" or a moose for that matter. As I glassed out across the river, opposite of where we hunted the afternoon/evening before ... I noticed a black, what I thought was a "moo cow", walking with a purpose. That was no "moo cow", but a moose. I started the truck and my son woke up. I said, I spotted a moose ... don't know if it’s a cow or a bull. As we approached the area, I spotted a bull moose walking straight for the road about 250 yards out. We parked the truck behind some willows and grabbed the 30-06 made our way through the fence and slowly came out from behind the willows. The bull was still walking right at us. My son noticed that the bull had one antler and a "drop tine". As I looked through the binoculars, yep ... one antler, but a big bodied bull moose none-the-less. As I'm looking through the binoculars, my son asks me, "Dad, what would you do ....? Which I respond ... "it's your permit; you do what you want to do .... with your schedule, and everything to consider it is your decision .... if you don't want to shoot, we can certainly come back another time to hunt moose (keep in mind, we were not being quiet and were just having a regular conversation while the moose continued right at us). I was telling my son that there is a moose about 75 yards from the road, we can drive to it, the rancher (last night) offered up his tractor to load it for us, etc. As the moose turned walking broadside, my son shoots the moose (great shot). I tell him to "hit him again", the moose stops and looks at us. Again, my son shoots (another great shot). I tell him to hit him again and my son says .... I don't know .... and the moose falls like a tree hitting the ground. We yell, hoop and holler and I say to son ..... "get the gate".

As we are driving up on the moose, I stop and say to my son ... get the gun, approach him from the back and lay the gun barrel on his eye to make sure he's dead. As my son approaches, he says "you’re not going to like this Dad .... he fell into a ditch (flow water). I go up to the moose .... no problem .... his snout it sticking up out of the far side and one hind leg is sticking out the other side. I cut a slit in the rear hind leg and tell my son, we are going to wench him out using the wench on the truck.


















I chalk this hunt up to one of those hunts where certain people and things come in and out of our daily lives and everything happens for a reason. We were leaving Alder headed home at 10:30 AM on Sunday with a whole moose in the back of our truck and smiles on our faces. On the way home, my son says to me, "Dad ... this was a fun hunt, thank you".

What a great hunt and memories that will last his lifetime and mine as well.

 

[406LIFE]

Great story. Glad to hear of a 17 year old getting the tag and harvesting. That will be a lifetime memory for both of you.

 

[MThuntr]

CONGRATS! That was a quick hunt. Bummer you didn't get "Mr Big" but a moose is a trophy at any size.

 

[Sask hunter]

Looks like fun!

 

[SFC B]

Great hunt, story and pics. So glad you were able to find an agreeable landowner. That rack may not be big but I like UGLY!

 

[JLS]

Congratulations to your son, and to you for making the trip happen for him. Great story all the way around.

 

[TheTone]

Congrats to your son on the moose. I can't believe how much that bull looks like the one my dad killed in Idaho 12 or so years ago.

 

[300stw]

great deal , making time for kids,,,,

 

[targetpanic]

Great story and pics! Congrats to your son!!

 

[Muleyfanatic]

Great story!
Congrats to your son.

 

[Nameless Range]

Heck yeah! That's awesome. Any time a tractor can help you load your moose you've just saved yourself a fair amount of suffering. Thanks for sharing!