JoseCuervo
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One of my good friends was the Genius behind this strategy. They were able to jump start this process of Breaching the Lower Snake River dams by threatening to sue for all the water in the Upper Snake (or at least 427,000 acre feet). The plan was genius, and it quickly got much of Idaho's attention, including US Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho).
Crapo quickly had some discussions held, and appeared to be moving toward a framework to search for a solution, when he and the Anti-Fishing/ Anti-Hunters (Power Companies, FeedLot operators, Farm Groups, etc.. etc..) said they would not have the discussions unless the threat to Sue was pulled off the table.
It appears Sen. Crapo does not want to offer the Rights under the Constitution to seek remedey in the Courts to the Wild Salmon and Steelhead of Idaho. And today, the Statesman weighed in, admonishing the Gunner's pals and their heavy-handed threat to sue.
Now keep in mind, until the threat to sue was made, Crapo was not holding these talks...
Here is the Idaho Statesman Editorial....
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Our View: Threat of salmon lawsuit undermines negotiations
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Environmental groups are making a mistake when they continue to threaten to sue over water for salmon.
Their threat is a serious blow to a negotiation process that was just getting under way. It gets in the way of devising a united plan that protects Idaho water, and ensures the survival of Idaho salmon.
When these talks resume — and we hope it´s when and not if — environmental groups can start things in the right direction by putting aside their lawsuit. But we don´t expect them to do all the giving and get nothing in return. They deserve to hear from the feds — be it of their own accord or at Sen. Mike Crapo´s nudging — a measurable plan for what they will do for Idaho´s fish.
That, after all, was what the environmentalists started out wanting: accountability from the feds.
Environmental groups put the feds on notice this fall, warning that they would sue to get dam operators to release more water for salmon. Water users accused environmentalists of jeopardizing Idaho´s $3.5 billion agricultural economy. Crapo agreed to bring the parties together to negotiate, and environmentalists agreed to set aside their threat of a lawsuit.
But when Crapo asked environmentalists to keep the lawsuit on hold until June, he got a mixed response. The Idaho Conservation League walked away from the suit. Idaho Rivers United, Save Our Wild Salmon, American Rivers and the National Wildlife Federation opted to keep the lawsuit on the table — leaving even the measured Crapo a bit exasperated. “That basically moves this out of the collaboration arena and into the litigation arena and we will fight to defend Idaho´s water.”
There´s plenty of anger on all sides, and it´s understandable. Environmentalists are frustrated because the feds haven´t met their commitments to release 427,000 acre-feet of water a year for salmon. That´s why they´re threatening a lawsuit to seek up to that 427,000 acre-feet.
Dropping the lawsuit doesn´t suddenly produce 427,000 acre-feet — enough to cover all of Ada County with 7 1/2 inches of water.
That magic number would probably be unrealistic in another drought year, Crapo spokesman Lindsay Nothern said.
So why talk, and why not sue? The mediation process is worth saving. First, it is helping the competing sides work through years of distrust and public sniping. Second, it is getting the federal agencies involved. “These people take these talks very seriously,” Nothern said.
In the long run, both of these benefits may far outweigh anything gained in court. And here´s why:
• Thirty years after passage of the Endangered Species Act, it´s time to include states in endangered species solutions. As Gov. Dirk Kempthorne said at an Endangered Species Act conference last week, “We need a culture of conservation that allows the states to set our own goals and then, in public-private partnerships, encourages us to achieve real results.” The rewards of an Idaho salmon plan are worth fighting for — stability for water users, a lucrative sport fishing industry, and the return of a piece of Idaho´s natural heritage. Idaho will never have a plan to take to Congress without some long, hard negotiations. We´ve only just begun.
• An Idaho salmon plan is only as good as the feds´ commitment to it. Idaho can´t save salmon in a vacuum. The issue reaches from Wyoming, the uppermost stretches of the Snake, to the Pacific Ocean. The feds have to be a partner.
The Crapo salmon negotiations haven´t been going on long, but they have brought together the state´s salmon players and the federal agencies.
That´s a start. We´d hate to see it get chucked aside so quickly.
For now, consensus appears as elusive as salmon recovery itself. But Idaho must fight for the former if it ever wants to see the latter.
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Crapo quickly had some discussions held, and appeared to be moving toward a framework to search for a solution, when he and the Anti-Fishing/ Anti-Hunters (Power Companies, FeedLot operators, Farm Groups, etc.. etc..) said they would not have the discussions unless the threat to Sue was pulled off the table.
It appears Sen. Crapo does not want to offer the Rights under the Constitution to seek remedey in the Courts to the Wild Salmon and Steelhead of Idaho. And today, the Statesman weighed in, admonishing the Gunner's pals and their heavy-handed threat to sue.
Now keep in mind, until the threat to sue was made, Crapo was not holding these talks...
Here is the Idaho Statesman Editorial....
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Our View: Threat of salmon lawsuit undermines negotiations
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Environmental groups are making a mistake when they continue to threaten to sue over water for salmon.
Their threat is a serious blow to a negotiation process that was just getting under way. It gets in the way of devising a united plan that protects Idaho water, and ensures the survival of Idaho salmon.
When these talks resume — and we hope it´s when and not if — environmental groups can start things in the right direction by putting aside their lawsuit. But we don´t expect them to do all the giving and get nothing in return. They deserve to hear from the feds — be it of their own accord or at Sen. Mike Crapo´s nudging — a measurable plan for what they will do for Idaho´s fish.
That, after all, was what the environmentalists started out wanting: accountability from the feds.
Environmental groups put the feds on notice this fall, warning that they would sue to get dam operators to release more water for salmon. Water users accused environmentalists of jeopardizing Idaho´s $3.5 billion agricultural economy. Crapo agreed to bring the parties together to negotiate, and environmentalists agreed to set aside their threat of a lawsuit.
But when Crapo asked environmentalists to keep the lawsuit on hold until June, he got a mixed response. The Idaho Conservation League walked away from the suit. Idaho Rivers United, Save Our Wild Salmon, American Rivers and the National Wildlife Federation opted to keep the lawsuit on the table — leaving even the measured Crapo a bit exasperated. “That basically moves this out of the collaboration arena and into the litigation arena and we will fight to defend Idaho´s water.”
There´s plenty of anger on all sides, and it´s understandable. Environmentalists are frustrated because the feds haven´t met their commitments to release 427,000 acre-feet of water a year for salmon. That´s why they´re threatening a lawsuit to seek up to that 427,000 acre-feet.
Dropping the lawsuit doesn´t suddenly produce 427,000 acre-feet — enough to cover all of Ada County with 7 1/2 inches of water.
That magic number would probably be unrealistic in another drought year, Crapo spokesman Lindsay Nothern said.
So why talk, and why not sue? The mediation process is worth saving. First, it is helping the competing sides work through years of distrust and public sniping. Second, it is getting the federal agencies involved. “These people take these talks very seriously,” Nothern said.
In the long run, both of these benefits may far outweigh anything gained in court. And here´s why:
• Thirty years after passage of the Endangered Species Act, it´s time to include states in endangered species solutions. As Gov. Dirk Kempthorne said at an Endangered Species Act conference last week, “We need a culture of conservation that allows the states to set our own goals and then, in public-private partnerships, encourages us to achieve real results.” The rewards of an Idaho salmon plan are worth fighting for — stability for water users, a lucrative sport fishing industry, and the return of a piece of Idaho´s natural heritage. Idaho will never have a plan to take to Congress without some long, hard negotiations. We´ve only just begun.
• An Idaho salmon plan is only as good as the feds´ commitment to it. Idaho can´t save salmon in a vacuum. The issue reaches from Wyoming, the uppermost stretches of the Snake, to the Pacific Ocean. The feds have to be a partner.
The Crapo salmon negotiations haven´t been going on long, but they have brought together the state´s salmon players and the federal agencies.
That´s a start. We´d hate to see it get chucked aside so quickly.
For now, consensus appears as elusive as salmon recovery itself. But Idaho must fight for the former if it ever wants to see the latter.
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