Funny photos

[Calif. Hunter]

Well here's another website, quoting Kruschev, that recites 5 to 10 million. What do you dispute from the other one?

http://www.trussel.com/hf/stalintr.htm


In the collectivization, industrialization and famines of 1929-33, it is estimated that 5 to 10 million Russians died and another 10 million were sent to forced labor under Stalin's slogan of "the liquidation of the kulaks as a class."

And another -

http://www.infoukes.com/history/famine/

A Man-Made Famine raged through Ukraine, the ethnic-Ukrainian region of northern Caucasus, and the lower Volga River region in 1932-33. This resulted in the death of between 7 to 10 million people, mainly Ukrainians. This was instigated by Soviet leader Joseph Stalin and his henchman Lazar Kaganovich. The main goal of this artificial famine was to break the spirit of the Ukrainian farmer/peasant and to force them into collectivization. The famine was also used as an effective tool to break the renaissance of Ukrainian culture that was occuring under approval of the communist government in Ukraine. Moscow perceived this as a threat to a Russo-Centric Soviet rule and therefore acted to crush this cultural renaissance in a most brutal manner.

 

[JoseCuervo]

Cali,

Point of clarification, I was referring to the "only an idiot would read" website that you got your pictures from.

The one on Stalin seems reasonable. Yes, Stalin did some bad things, and to see people in the US wanting to do similar is a scary thought.

 

[Calif. Hunter]

Oh - I thought you were continuing to argue that

quote: Those others did not claim 6 million lives.


I agree that the first site I linked to cannot be taken too seriously, but I also feel that way about Michael Moore.

 

[JoseCuervo]

I like Moore, because it gets people talking/debating/arguing/thinking.... Unfortunately, that makes a surprising amount of people uncomfortable...

 

[Calif. Hunter]

and look at how many people got involved in this topic because of the pictures...

I like Moore, too, in the aspect that he is, indeed, a large, LARGE target.

 

[JoseCuervo]

Uh... Cali, most of the posts are yours and mine'. that makes two of us....

 

[Calif. Hunter]

But how many viewers have there been? WHs OutdoorsChick has been here, IdahoCrittergetter and dgibson all posted in this tropic and they are not as frequent posters down here as some others, who shall remain nameless...

 

[Hangar18]

Personally, I feel any comparisons to Nazis and/or the Holocaust should not be made lightly, and those who do are complete idiots. 6 Million Jews were killed by somebody who wanted to silence people, absolutely no humour in that.

Are you also condeming MoveOn.ORG's video comparing Bush to Hitler from their website last January? Or Michael Moore's comment "America under Bush was moving in a Third Reich-like direction."

 

[dgibson]

I am aware of the effectiveness of the Nazi propaganda machine and I still don't get the comparison to Moore. Yes, he twists facts and puts a false shine on what really happened, just like the Nazis. That doesn't MAKE him a Nazi. Any spin doctor for either party who's worth his salt is guilty of the same things.

Hangar, those Bush comments are equally ridiculous. One belligerent country conquered does not an empire make.

 

[ELKCHSR]

gunner...
LMAO... You bring my name up enough.... Well a derivitive any way
I sure hope I am not in your dreams as I seem to be in almost all of your waking thoughts and what you can do to bring me into a conversation...
I sure hope this isn't a love affair! It would be very unhealthy...
Now I will ask another question. I don't suppose you will answer this one either, since you don't seem to be able to answer any of the others...
What is the difference of my free speech, and you continually hounding on people until they are finally off the board. I am not just talking about Paws, there have been many others. Is it because you don't like the ideas of their freedom of speech, I would suppose so. I can easily see the game. Just keep slamming any one that doesn't agree, and you can chase them off.

It doesn't have to be any thing in particular, just continue with the names, and cut and paste jobs of the farthest left wing stuff you can find.
I would also like to state some thing else,

you have as of late, started posting about hanging with the Republican party... I would use a term I have seen by one of our famouse people on this board..... Coughbullshitcough....

It may not be spelled exactly the way he does it, but it gets the point across...

 

[Hangar18]

Hangar, those Bush comments are equally ridiculous. One belligerent country conquered does not an empire make.

I completely agree. ANY comparison to Hitler or Stalin, the 20th century's worst mass murderers, is over the line. I simply see a one-sided condemnation in this thread, and am asking Gunner if he is willing to condemn the remarks themselves rather than who made them.

 

[1_pointer]

it gets people talking/debating/arguing/thinking.... Unfortunately, that makes a surprising amount of people uncomfortable...

Elkchsr, you think this may be what 'Gunner is maybe doing? You uncomfortable? If one is willing to have a debate with him he's up for it. If that's running people off then they need to re-evaluate some things.

 

[ELKCHSR]

Tyler...
You need to look up the differnce of debate and argument....
There are some rules to debating, and I have stated them before.
They can't be crossed or you loose the debate hands down, no matter how right you may be....
I didn't make them, only understand them.

1. Don't raise your voice to get your point across.

2. No physical confrontation of any kind.

3. No name calling.

Is there any of these rules that is constantly broke by gunner?

The first two would be impossible to do or tell, but that last one just seems to fit the bill pretty much in almost ever post. So, there is no debating going on with him and none of it can be construde as such...

I would like to change the subject a little though, I have been looking real hard at the different grass speices I have been seeing, and wondering if you could or would be willing to give some information on some of what I have been seeing? This is not meant to be controversial or any thing else, I just have some questions...

 

[BuzzH]

Elkcheese,

Who wrote the rules you posted?

If you do in fact understand them, it would be about the first and only thing you've ever understood.

Congratulations.

 

[1_pointer]

I'll try to help with the grasses, but some of those up there aren't down here. I'll try though.

 

[ELKCHSR]

Thanks Tyler...
I will try and get some definitions of what I see.
Yep, Buzz, I don't understand much of every thing I see
I do know that I can see things beyond what those that live inside of a box could possibly see or understand. Some even have the capability to see the big picture but are so tied up with the shallow things in life, or the small problems, they can't see the larger world around them...
Pretty sad if you ask me. Pretty sad indeed...