Couple more. The pre-64 Winchester Model 70 was a gift from a friend and has taken pronghorn and deer in MT, WY and lord knows where else. it will be passed on as well to someone who is worthy of such a fine gift. It's right next to the Mortimer 450 3 1/4 BPE, which is an absolute hammer on whitetail. It's a little heavy for toting around the woods at 10 pounds, but great fun in a blind or hunt without a ton of hiking. It's circa 1885 or so.