F150 Payload question

[Lab]

I have a new 21 foot travel trailer. It weighs 4000lbs dry. 600lbs tongue weight. I have a 570 RZR that weighs 900lbs. I would like to put it in my bed to take every now and then with my travel trailer. This would push me above payload with my wife and gear in truck.
Would you recommend this if only on a few times a year? Is this a no no?

 

[Addicting]

I have a new 21 foot travel trailer. It weighs 4000lbs dry. 600lbs tongue weight. I have a 570 RZR that weighs 900lbs. I would like to put it in my bed to take every now and then with my travel trailer. This would push me above payload with my wife and gear in truck.
Would you recommend this if only on a few times a year? Is this a no no?

How much above max payload?

 

[MTLabrador]

Are you using a weight distributing hitch for the camper? You could always go with heavier leaf springs, air bags, RAS, etc to help out.

 

[Laelkhunter]

Just a side note. You say the trailer is 4000 dry. That is the factory weight BEFORE the factory adds anything. When they add A/C, awnings, propane tanks, spare tire, etc, then YOU add dishes, coffee pot, silverware, bedding sheets, blankets, THEN food, water, can goods, beer, ice, clean water in the holding tank, and any liquid in the grey water or black water system, you could add hundreds of pounds to that 4000. Then you also have to figure the weight in the bed of your truck, extra passengers in the truck etc. Don't just judge by the trailer weight sticker on the tongue. Transmission temperature will be the most important factor, if you have a transmission temp gauge on your dash, keep an eye on it. If it starts climbing into the hot range, pull over, lift your hood, and don't turn the engine off. Let it run until it gets back down to normal range. Of course, plenty of uphill will be a lot harder on everything than level.

 

[Lab]

Are you using a weight distributing hitch for the camper? You could always go with heavier leaf springs, air bags, RAS, etc to help out.

Yes- An Anderson

 

[Lab]

How much above max payload?

100-200lbs max

 

[Addicting]

100-200lbs max

I would actually weigh it on a scale to see then. If it’s only a couple hundred I wouldn’t worry. I would bet it’s significantly more than what you think on the scale.

 

[Bulldog0156]

3/4 Ton. You're going to be way over payload.

 

[BrentD]

I have a new 21 foot travel trailer. It weighs 4000lbs dry. 600lbs tongue weight. I have a 570 RZR that weighs 900lbs. I would like to put it in my bed to take every now and then with my travel trailer. This would push me above payload with my wife and gear in truck.
Would you recommend this if only on a few times a year? Is this a no no?

Does not sound bad to me. I have been hauling a tractor and implements and much more with mine. More weight than what you have going. Wind is not helpful, but it is certainly viable for the job. Truck is rated to a bit over 13K# as I recall. I've been up around 10K for 336 mile trips.

 

[Arcola]

I would actually weigh it on a scale to see then. If it’s only a couple hundred I wouldn’t worry. I would bet it’s significantly more than what you think on the scale.

This! Even without the trailer, your side by side is going to squat that truck quite a bit. Will it handle it for a while? -probably. Will it be safe? -not likely.

 

[David58]

I believe the capacities are over-rated, meaning the real capacity is lower.

Our V8 Expedition (basically an F150 SUV) puked a tranny after towing our trailer, on the order of the same weight as yours. Well within what the rig was rated for. I am a "gentle" driver, but the three week trip from here through CO, UT, WY, ID, OR was the last one.

In my opinion, worth what you paid for it, I won't tow again unless I have a rig rated for far more than what the cargo weighs. I think systems are too fragile today.

David
NM

 

[ccc23454]

I don't think it's appropiate to do what your asking but you decide it's your risk. I will bring up a point no one has yet is stopping that thing, brakes get real goofy when trucks are overloaded.

 

[BrentD]

I used to pull 7500# of hay with my f150 and a little 2.7 EB engine at interstate speeds for hundreds of miles at a shot, 1500 miles per year. It was painless. I think "systems" are pretty good and then some. But then I don't believe I need a magnum to shoot a deer either. I think we all tend to have truck magnumitis just like we have cartridge magnumitis. YMMV (pun intended).

 

[ismith]

This would push me above payload with my wife and gear in truck. Is this a no no?

I'd be caught dead before I would post this on a forum, and probably after too, if she happened to see it. So yes, definitely a no no.

 

[Sytes]

I have a new 21 foot travel trailer. It weighs 4000lbs dry. 600lbs tongue weight. I have a 570 RZR that weighs 900lbs. I would like to put it in my bed to take every now and then with my travel trailer. This would push me above payload with my wife and gear in truck.
Would you recommend this if only on a few times a year? Is this a no no?

We p/u a 4200 lb dry bumper pull trailer and have a 2022 Ram 1500. It pulls though for 4-8mpg and higher rpm's for casual hills. All within the listed tongue and pull weight capacity. I would love to have at least a 3/4 and that does not account for your inquiry of a UTV in the bed.

If you're set to make it happen, bags to stiffen up your rear axle though - I wouldn't.

 

[Sytes]

Just a side note. You say the trailer is 4000 dry. That is the factory weight BEFORE the factory adds anything. When they add A/C, awnings, propane tanks, spare tire, etc,

If I understand, that is by the specific, "dry weight", not "label dry weight" which, if I understand correctly accounts for that VIN specific liquid free dry weight. This accurate?