Draw Process Working Group Recommendations

[RunNGunSC]

I think it’s important to remember the “issues” or “goals” the working group was trying to address. I think these proposals will encourage the use of more points, provide opportunity at the most coveted tags, reduce reliance on a rigged reissue process..etc. There will always be winners and losers with any change.

 

[Khunter]

Feel for the folks with 27, 31 or whatever points who thought they were super close to drawing the very best (famous) deer/elk tags only to see the the pref point tag allotments peel off half the tags where most points would get the tag to instead be in a bonus point (points equals names in the hat) draw. That will be a harsh reality.

For me I have burned through all my top end points and drew the ‘great’ sheep, goat, moose, deer, elk, lope tags already so sitting at the bottom of the barrel with hardly any points for anything. I will have a newfound slight chance to draw a lottery odds tags well before I have ‘earned’ it of some of this comes to pass.

 

[grasshopper]

I've always been confused by what the goal/intent of the whole process was. When Haskett pushed for it, we supposedly needed to simplify. Nothings simple, this isn't simpler. Is it a better system with these changes? Will applicants be less or more confused? Will those penalized be massively PO'd?

Right now this is a 13 page document presented to 11 commissioners of which 3 will have a basic understanding of the concept. Eyes will gloss over fast. Good luck to those lobbying/advocating for an outcome, go slow in your 3 minutes, explain benefits. Thanks Terry and John.

Maybe some GMU's get easier to draw in low to mid tier after everyone piles into 201,2, and 10 for first choice apps based on a 50/50 split.

I am excited by the chance for resident preference across all choices. As GMU's move to limited, this is reasonable.

I am also excited to see this get explained to commissioners and hear their comments. Should be worth the price of admission.

 

[Oak]

I am excited by the chance for resident preference across all choices. As GMU's move to limited, this is reasonable.

I am also excited to see this get explained to commissioners and hear their comments. Should be worth the price of admission.

To be clear, preference across all four choices was shot down by the ELT, and their recommendation is status quo.

 

[grasshopper]

To be clear, preference across all four choices was shot down by the ELT, and their recommendation is status quo.

Ok, I signed up for virtual testimony. No preference across all 4 choices is bullshit.

 

[Mallardsx2]

Ok, I signed up for virtual testimony. No preference across all 4 choices is bullshit.

 

[Forkyfinder]

I see the residents of elkless states that have the privelege of hunting non-resident in other states are active today.

Its all so unfortunate - no one chooses where they live and work

 

[TheGreek]

Final final recommendations

Item.22_DrawChanges.pdf

cpw.widen.net

 

[5yearcoueshunter]

Been listening most of the day. Motions that have passed:

- 75/25 allocations Split for Primary Draw for 1st and 2nd choice only for all hunt codes. Removes the High Demand 80/20 currently.

- Points are only used on 1st choice for primary draw and new Auto Reissue process. Basically status quo

- Points are going to cost $15 resident $30 NR points fee per species with an opt in/opt out option

- Pick 1 of 3 for Moose/Goat/Sheep was rejected. Status Quo

-50/50 Preference/Bonus draw is passed

-Secondary Draw 100% Random, 100% Youth Preference, No preference points used Status Quo

-MGS is 100% Bonus draw passes, removes weighted preference

- 3 year waiting period for Antlered Moose, Sheep and ES goat

-No waiting period for Cow Moose or Ewe

-Bighorn Rams and Goats are now Once and a Lifetime Harvest


I don't think any of this takes affect till 2028

 

[grasshopper]

Holy cow that was painful to sit through. An hour late start, thank goodness I understand the equity grant program so we can spend millions so the underserved can fish and hike. I remember when I was a kid, if you didn't have money, all you could afford was fishing and hiking. Didn't need a 3 million dollar give away.

Is it just me, or wouldn't it be nice to have commissioners who actually used and understood the big game draw? That discussion took way to long, and im not sure anyone understands or thinks about consequences of a vote.

 

[LIK2HNT]

Talk about further flooding the SMG odds.

 

[Pelican]

Is it just me, or wouldn't it be nice to have commissioners who actually used and understood the big game draw? That discussion took way to long, and im not sure anyone understands or thinks about consequences of a vote.

After watching some of the meeting, I’m convinced a group of retarded monkeys is more capable of making informed decisions than our commission currently.

 

[5yearcoueshunter]

Talk about further flooding the SMG odds.

There was really nothing that changed with SMG that should change odds. Still $100 for a point, still 3 year waiting period to apply. Changing from weighted preference to bonus is not much different.

 

[LIK2HNT]

There was really nothing that changed with SMG that should change odds. Still $100 for a point, still 3 year waiting period to apply. Changing from weighted preference to bonus is not much different.

Yep, I miss read it.

 

[bayoublaster7527]

Holy cow that was painful to sit through. An hour late start, thank goodness I understand the equity grant program so we can spend millions so the underserved can fish and hike. I remember when I was a kid, if you didn't have money, all you could afford was fishing and hiking. Didn't need a 3 million dollar give away.

Is it just me, or wouldn't it be nice to have commissioners who actually used and understood the big game draw? That discussion took way to long, and im not sure anyone understands or thinks about consequences of a vote.

That would require Chairman Polis to appoint actual sportsmen and women to the commission and more broadly people that are actually qualified.