Draw Process Working Group Recommendations

[Pelican]

Here is a link to a memo summarizing the recommendations from the draw process working group.

https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Commission/2024/July/Item.23_Commission_Memo_Draw_Working_Group_4.pdf

I may be misinterpreting the summary, but it seems to me the DPWG is recommending all deer, elk, pronghorn, bear, and turkey licenses be allocated at 75:25. This would result in the resident allocation for high demand tags in limited units being REDUCED by 6%.

 

[Buffs35]

Here is a link to a memo summarizing the recommendations from the draw process working group.

https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Commission/2024/July/Item.23_Commission_Memo_Draw_Working_Group_4.pdf

I may be misinterpreting the summary, but it seems to me the DPWG is recommending all deer, elk, pronghorn, bear, and turkey licenses be allocated at 75:25. This would result in the resident allocation for high demand tags in limited units being REDUCED by 6%.

 

[perma]

I may be misinterpreting the summary, but it seems to me the DPWG is recommending all deer, elk, pronghorn, bear, and turkey licenses be allocated at 75:25. This would result in the resident allocation for high demand tags in limited units being REDUCED by 6%.

@Oak

80/20 still applies to the 5+ point point draws don’t they?

 

[HONEYBADGER]

Interesting strategy begging for NR people to help fight to preserve hunting within their state at the same time propose changes restricting NR hunters ability to hunt their state.

 

[Khunter]

Anybody else sign up to give public comment on it? I did.

 

[huskyhunter]

● During the surrender period, allow customers to return a license for BOTH a monetary refund and restoration of preference points to the pre-draw level

I was really hoping that the option to return the tag and get both your money and PP back would only be for the approved exceptions.

 

[Oak]

Recommendations from the DWG are summarized in three memos covering the four DWG meetings.

• March Commission memo, meetings 1 & 2 - Topics: Primary draw methods, preference points. Commission presentation
• May Commission memo, meeting 3 - Topics: MSG draw methods, points, allocation, preference, OIL, etc. Commission presentation
• July Commission memo, meeting 4 - Topics: Reissue process, revisit some earlier recommendations. Commission presentation coming 12:10 PM, July 19

Keep in mind that some recommendations summarized in the first two memos were adjusted in meeting 4.

Also keep in mind that, while the group tried to reach consensus, some recommendations were not unanimously supported. Support dipped as low as an 8-5 vote. Issues that were more evenly split were advanced to the Commission.

Consideration and adoption of some or all of the recommendations will be a 2-step process, with the first presentation and discussion being the November Commission meeting in Lamar, and the second discussion and vote at the January meeting in Denver. A summary of all recommendations will be provided prior to the November meeting.

Targeted implementation of any approved changes is the 2028 license year.

You have the opportunity to provide input to the Commission at any time prior to the January vote (in other words, a LOT of time). Input provided prior to the November meeting will be most valuable.

If you are really bored, you can watch the the four 7+ hour DWG meetings in their entirety. Any questions you have a strong urge to ask on this thread are probably answered here.

Meeting 1
Meeting 2
Meeting 3
Meeting 4

@Oak

80/20 still applies to the 5+ point point draws don’t they?

No, the recommendation is 75/25 across the board.

 

[TheGreek]

Final recommendations

16.DrawChanges_Issue_Main.pdf

cpw.widen.net

 

[Oak]

Final recommendations

16.DrawChanges_Issue_Main.pdf

cpw.widen.net

Folks, read these recommendations closely, and provide input to the Commission. In particular, note the color coding of the the recommendations and the places where the staff preferred recommendations do not align with the DWG recommendations.

 

[KingOfTagSoup]

Here is a link to a memo summarizing the recommendations from the draw process working group.

https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Commission/2024/July/Item.23_Commission_Memo_Draw_Working_Group_4.pdf

I may be misinterpreting the summary, but it seems to me the DPWG is recommending all deer, elk, pronghorn, bear, and turkey licenses be allocated at 75:25. This would result in the resident allocation for high demand tags in limited units being REDUCED by 6%.

Even as a non resident I think that's just not ok. Their primary duty is to their residents. Or is supposed to be

 

[Treeshark]

Their primary duty is to their residents.

One thing people tend to overlook is that the majority of Colorado residents are non-hunters. It is better for them financially to have a greater number of tags be sold to nonresidents.

The state makes more money that way and since they don’t hunt anyway, what do they care who gets the tag?

 

[RunNGunSC]

Reasonable proposals, it will be interesting to see what is implemented.

 

[TOGIE]

what do they care

this is actually the only thing that matters.

they don't care at all. so their opinion that doesn't exist is moot.

 

[Treeshark]

this is actually the only thing that matters.

the don't care at all. so their opinion that doesn't exist is moot.

I’m sorry, I am not sure what your post means?

*the edit helps, much appreciated. Not sure I agree with you there, and even if that was true I’m not so sure that’s how the PTD works.

 

[TOGIE]

I’m sorry, I am not sure what your post means?

*the edit helps, much appreciated. Not sure I agree with you there, and even if that was true I’m not so sure that’s how the PTD works.

non hunters don't care, you're exactly right. so their lack of opinion is of actually no use or merit to the discussion.

the non hunters in this state are continually trying to decrease cpw's revenue at the ballot box anyway, so, it follows that they should totally favor lower NR allocation.

 

[Treeshark]

We are definitely looking at this one through different lenses, I don’t agree with either of those two points.

 

[TOGIE]

maybe double check that prescription of yours.

 

[Treeshark]

maybe double check that prescription of yours.

 

[Mallardsx2]

Will there be time allocated during any future CPW meetings for any tearful public testimony regarding these matters...??

lmao

 

[huskyhunter]

Maybe I misunderstood the role of this working group, or maybe I am misunderstanding the final recommendations, but I thought part of this was to help reduce point creep. I don't see anything in here that is going to reduce that.