Muley_Stalker
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The first one to show me both lungs.
Definition of a raghorn
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The true definition comes from European red deer, you are referring to the colloquial definition. I personally don’t really like the colloquial one because it’s so subjective and therefore use the objective archaic definition which just counts points.Raghorn, is not defined by a specific number of points but more by the characteristics associated with young bulls.
In human comparison it’s a teenager, long hair and acne included.
By connotation: Ragged, non symmetric antlers. Immature. Sub- dominate in most herds. The outlier.
Your bull is not a raghorn by my very definitive, non scientific definition and I am prepared to meme fight you to prove it.
He looks to be at least in that 4-5 year old age class and constitutes a “nice bull” in almost every general hunting area. A “biggun.”
Contrary to popular belief, many bulls will not break 300” at any point in their lives. Especially here in Montana, where most bulls die before their fourth birthday.
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BuzzH
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You guys argue about it...raghorn or not?
There’s no way you really think that 300” 5 pt is a raghorn. Seems like a better line could be drawn based on age or score. Maybe <3.5 yo or <220”?
Kind of like obscenity, you know a raghorn when you see it.
ashersdad
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I've killed 6 points that I considered rag horns and I've killed 5 points that I didn't. Personal opinion I guess. For me it comes down to alot of things. Age, mass, tine length, etc. For me, any elk is a good elk (cows included).
Buzz's bull would definitely NOT be a raghorn in my book.
Buzz's bull would definitely NOT be a raghorn in my book.
the above elk is a nice mature 5x5, the elk in the foreground below is a 5x5 and a raghornYou guys argue about it...raghorn or not?
noharleyyet
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Texas Trophy....colloquialism
Addicting
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With Michigan points that would be a 14 point or a western 6x8. Lol
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Per all of my comments, I call any bull 2-5pts a raghorn.
I didn’t grow up elk hunting and therefore don’t have the cultural baggage so I feel comfortable with the “dictionary” definition.
Though to your point I would call any bull +/- 240 a mature bull. Heavy five, or a bull that has through his second 6X6 rack.
Most bulls people kill in CO are 2.5-3.5 bulls, colloquially and usually objectively raghorns. That’s what the state manages for, I see all public land bulls as trophies so I personally don’t think calling a bull a raghorn is derogatory.
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Bambistew
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All raghorns are brushheads and vice versa. If it's not spike or a mature bull it's a raghorn.
These three Montana bulls were called rag horns by other hunters, but Im pretty happy with them and were great eating. I wish we could ban the term rag horn, piss-cutter, brush bull, etc; it doesn’t give full credit to such a beautiful creature.
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Mtnhunter1
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My son's first couple of "Rag-Horns", but he would argue that he tagged a great 4x4 and a super nice 5x5! ANY PUBLIC LAND BULL taken on a general tag in a publicly open area is a trophy, rag-horn or not!
Solid 5x5 from a few years past. Rag-Horn to some, but to me, he was a very hard earned bull that I was happy to get a crack at! Montana public bulls have now become very tough to find!!
Solid 5x5 from a few years past. Rag-Horn to some, but to me, he was a very hard earned bull that I was happy to get a crack at! Montana public bulls have now become very tough to find!!
Carl 9.3x62
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7x7 raghorn
Muley_Stalker
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My kills have all been harvesting meat.
diamond hitch
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For the record here is a picture of my summer raghorn herd
Art Vandeley
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Embrace debate. Raghorn or trophy bull??
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To quote Justice Potter Stewart -- i know it when I see it, and I won't shoot.
