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Dealing with TSA after Alaska

Mica Man

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Throwing this out to the HT community for any advice as I imagine I'm not the only one who has had issues with TSA when traveling for a hunt. I'm curious if anyone else has had similar issues and how they handled it.

Earlier this month I went on a trip to Kodiak with several friends to hunt Blacktail and do a little fishing. Been to SE Alaska several times but first time up to the "Rock" for me.
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DAY 1
After arriving at our destination we were asked to present our license and tags for verification prior to hunting. I unlocked my guncase to retrieve my license and locking deer tag only to find that it was no longer there. Panic followed by second guessing myself as to if I had somehow forgotten it and left it at home. More searching with the same result. Not gonna lie. I was a bit pissed.

I was able to reprint my license and permits at the place we were staying, but was without the metal locking tag required to hunt deer. No license vender anywhere close to us and an hour's flight from the city of Kodiak from where we were staying.

None the less, we headed out for approx the last four hours of light for a quick hunt. We had split up in pairs since there were six of us as it made the most sense.

The leaves were off the brush and trees but it was still pretty thick with limited visibility. Kind of jungle like and similar to North Idaho brush but without the trees.

Not long into out hunt I spotted a nice looking buck. He was safe from me as I was not properly licensed and he melted into the brush before I could direct my buddy to where he was located. Very frustrating as I would have been more than happy to have put my tag on him if I had only had one.

Using a cedar deer call I had purchased from a resident of POW the previous fall seemed pretty effective. Every couple hundred yards or likely looking spot I would stop and blow on it. About 50% of the time within a few seconds a deer would materialize out of the grass and brush. Unfortunately all that responded to the call were does. However, I figured it was only a matter of time before a rutting buck would at least follow one of them into our setup.
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One member of out party shot a forky buck the first evening but no other deer were harmed. We were checked by Alaska State troopers on our way back who happened to have boated into the area making their rounds. They were sympathetic to my situation but confirmed what I already knew that without the metal locking tag, I could pack a firearm around for "safety " or "defense" purposes on the island but not shoot a deer.

DAY 2
Different terrain on the second day and not as thick as what we experienced the day previous. Lot's of opportunities for glassing and a few deer spotted. Several does and only one spike buck spotted for the day between the six of us. I was still bummed about not having a tag but not as much, so if the country had been crawling with bucks and shooting was involved.
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An uptick in the day was after returning to our cabin on the second evening and learning that the host we were staying with was able to pull some strings with the F&G office in Kodiak. They were able to print off a duplicate locking tag and then have it delivered to the airport and flown down to where we were staying.
Pretty awesome to say the least.

Day 3
We opted to fish as a group rather than hike the island looking for deer. It was one of the guys' birthday and we wanted to take advantageof the salt. We had a great day on the water.
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Day 4
Weather sucked with high winds a rain. We spent the morning in the cabin moping as we knew going out in the boat would be pretty miserable. By mid morning the rain let up and the wind began to die down.

We grabbed our gear and headed out to a spot close to where we had hunted on day one. Thick cover with few glassing opportunities. I again used my deer call and things worked out as a lovesick buck followed in a couple does. My buddy made a 50 yard shot on this nice buck.
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We boned it out and hunted our way back. I called in another nice buck but was unable to get a shot. Not bad for an abbreviated hunting day.

Day 5

More fishing and another birthday for a member of our party. We planned on fishing in the morning and then hoped to hunt in the afternoon. Fishing was great and we ended up staying out on the salt rather than come in early and hunt.
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Day 6
It was a great trip and we flew out on a calm, clear, bluebird day for home. I enjoyed myself and the experience of a different part of Alaska. I had intended on both hunting and fishing on this trip but feel somewhat shorted due to only really being able to hunt for approx 1/3 of a day due to TSA.

Yes, I blame TSA as I know they removed my license and tags from my guncase. I know this because after returning home I filed a missing item report at the Spokane airport where the case was "checked" and then locked by TSA. I got a confirmation email a couple days ago from them stating that they have my "license and tags" and that I can pick them up or pay to have them shipped to me

So my question to the HT community. What would you do and what possible options might I be able to pursue for some sort of restitution?

I don't feel that TSA was purposly malicious when they removed my license and tag but come on. This trip was two years in the making and obviously entailed a bit more expense than a typical hunting trip for me.

Yes, I'm a whiner, but what would you do in my situation?
 
That sucks bad but I agree, doubtful on any recourse. It looks like you had a great time so savor the memories.
 
That sucks man. Sorry to hear!

I doubt you will be able to have any recourse.

Why did you put them in the case though instead of somewhere that wouldn’t get separated from you like a wallet or your carry on?
Would have normally had it on my person but with a metal locking tag I didn't want to give security any reason to consider it "contraband" and remove it from me. Plus I put it with our guns because if the guns didn't make it I wouldn't be hunting anyway.
 
When traveling with hunting gear, anything that will get through tsa checkpoint goes in my carryon for the trip there. Get their plenty early in case of any gruff and you can put it in checked instead.

Way too many stories like this happen and it's honestly just something you need to account for. You also could have been stuck in Anchorage for a few days due to fog with the same result.

Traveling to AK, crap will happen. Accept it. Plan for it. Try to make the best of it.
 
Yep, totally my fault TSA removed something from my gun case they searched and locked up. Anything else my fault they may have removed?
OK , no reason to get snarky about it . I plan on the stupidest thing possible to happen and take steps to prevent them . It was most likely an honest mistake on their part , but if it had been on your person it would've never had happened .
Live and learn , or not , your call .
 
OK , no reason to get snarky about it . I plan on the stupidest thing possible to happen and take steps to prevent them . It was most likely an honest mistake on their part , but if it had been on your person it would've never had happened .
Live and learn , or not , your call .
Yep I agree. If they were on your person and worst case your gun was lost then you had your license and could have borrowed your buddies gun for the hunt. Live and learn.
 
That sucks. Glad you were able to salvage the hunt and got a heck of a nice deer!

TSA took a brand new, never used, empty fuel bottle for my MSR stove. That was awesome arriving Kotz and finding out they removed the bottle. Luckily the transporter had the same stove and lent me a bottle.

I had a fun case fail to show up once. I lost two days of hunting on that trip.

What could you get other than an apology?
 
Question - did you have a lot of other stuff in your gun case ? Stuff packed around your gun ?
Three guns in the case and the license and tags in a ziplock bag between the foam and plastic of the case. I miss the old days when you could be present when they checked your guns. I've also had them take half a box of my shotgun shells last year when I went to South Dakota to go pheasant hunting.
 
on the way to Ak this year I had 2 tsa locks on my gun case. When it got to Kodiak I had 0. When we checked in at Kodiak to go home the tsa guy was like you need locks and I told him I had locks, but tsa took them on the way up. He made me buy 2 locks at the Alaska air counter. Then he emptied my gun case and called me back there to repack everything. At the MSP airport they pulled me aside after the body scanner, said I had a suspicious area in my crotch. They patted me down and found nothing. On the way home I had the same belt and pants on, nothing suspicious. My brother had a wrap on his leg and TSA was about ready to call in full back up they were so worried about his wrap he had, even though he had a note from the Kodiak clinic stating such as he’d been there a few hours prior. My other brother got flagged for having a fish box as a carry on they said was to big, but the guy in front of him had a kuiu 3200 day pack that was stuffed to the brim and way more full. I’m not sure where they find TSA agents, but they sure find some dandies.
 
on the way to Ak this year I had 2 tsa locks on my gun case. When it got to Kodiak I had 0. When we checked in at Kodiak to go home the tsa guy was like you need locks and I told him I had locks, but tsa took them on the way up. He made me buy 2 locks at the Alaska air counter. Then he emptied my gun case and called me back there to repack everything. At the MSP airport they pulled me aside after the body scanner, said I had a suspicious area in my crotch. They patted me down and found nothing. On the way home I had the same belt and pants on, nothing suspicious. My brother had a wrap on his leg and TSA was about ready to call in full back up they were so worried about his wrap he had, even though he had a note from the Kodiak clinic stating such as he’d been there a few hours prior. My other brother got flagged for having a fish box as a carry on they said was to big, but the guy in front of him had a kuiu 3200 day pack that was stuffed to the brim and way more full. I’m not sure where they find TSA agents, but they sure find some dandies.
Definitely amazes me that for some reason we are resigned to tolerate sub mediocre service. If I was that inept in my job I would have been fired long ago.
 
Three guns in the case and the license and tags in a ziplock bag between the foam and plastic of the case. I miss the old days when you could be present when they checked your guns. I've also had them take half a box of my shotgun shells last year when I went to South Dakota to go pheasant hunting.
The reason I asked was I see people stuff everything they can into the gun case to keep from paying for another checked bag .
I'm just the opposite , I just put the gun and a few other thing , mags , bipods .
I try to keep it as simple as I can , knowing the people I'll be dealing with are not mental giants .
I hate flying , sorry it happened to you . Not sure what they , TSA, can offer to make it up but I'd try to get something out of it .
 
Definitely amazes me that for some reason we are resigned to tolerate sub mediocre service. If I was that inept in my job I would have been fired long ago.
Yep , I can't believe the incompetence I've dealt with . But they know they got you , what are you going to do , not get on the flight ?
I hate flying !
 
on the way to Ak this year I had 2 tsa locks on my gun case. When it got to Kodiak I had 0. When we checked in at Kodiak to go home the tsa guy was like you need locks and I told him I had locks, but tsa took them on the way up. He made me buy 2 locks at the Alaska air counter. Then he emptied my gun case and called me back there to repack everything. At the MSP airport they pulled me aside after the body scanner, said I had a suspicious area in my crotch. They patted me down and found nothing. On the way home I had the same belt and pants on, nothing suspicious. My brother had a wrap on his leg and TSA was about ready to call in full back up they were so worried about his wrap he had, even though he had a note from the Kodiak clinic stating such as he’d been there a few hours prior. My other brother got flagged for having a fish box as a carry on they said was to big, but the guy in front of him had a kuiu 3200 day pack that was stuffed to the brim and way more full. I’m not sure where they find TSA agents, but they sure find some dandies.
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I would go ahead and report it to your airline explaining the cost of the hunt and how it cost you. I doubt it will result in anything but perhaps you may get a voucher or something.

Definitely a good reminder for us to keep the tags with us for carry on. Can generally barrow a rifle from a friend or guide. I’m sorry it happened to you.
 
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