Curious what the Trump "Conservatin Charity" will be

[jryoung]

I think it would be better to encourage donations directly to conservation organizations rather than holding some gala with who knows how much overhead.

Utopia sounds great, it just isn't realistic.

 

[MTGomer]

Maybe it will go to RMEF or TRCF,but I doubt it.
I know,I'm not a all bright and cheery, endless possibilities kinda guy. Anymore.
Just ask BF....LOL,but you are BF and I do have to give you credit for positive attitude, some grit,determination & maybe a vision of "that" speedgoat instead of a unicorn.
But you could be right,maybe.

And if that happened, thousands of people would demand that those groups refuse the money so they don't become beholden to Trumps agenda , and it would become a PR nightmare.

I can think of A few accounts on this forum that would go into a tizzy if that happened.

 

[hank4elk]

And if that happened, thousands of people would demand that those groups refuse the money so they don't become beholden to Trumps agenda , and it would become a PR nightmare.

I can think of A few accounts on this forum that would go into a tizzy if that happened.

Don't worry 'bout that MTG,I'd be more likely to win a bazillion dollar lottery or maybe just a cap for once....lol
"Gettin' Western" ,hold on to yur lids.

 

[JM77]

I hope some of it goes to BHA cause my fellow board colleague Mr BuzzH might get a few elbows in the ribs.

Good chance that will happen, don't you think Buzz?

 

[schmalts]

Don't worry, Trump has Zero chances of being elected.....

 

[MTGomer]

Don't worry, Trump has Zero chances of being elected.....

The damage his campaign will do to the Republican Party will surely cost them their majority in the Senate, and probably the house. They may never win another presidential race in this life time.

That's what the fake news outlets said.

 

[antlerradar]

Just out of curiosity, what will be the response here if this money ends up in the bank of charities folks here are members of?

As peculiar as it is for a Republican DC event to be dedicated to conservation, I find it equally peculiar that so much is being made about this when nobody knows that the money won't end up being used for conservation. Are Republicans not allowed to have big dollar conservation fund raisers, the same as Hollywood does for environmental causes?

I had not heard of this event until Kat posted it. I think it is good to raise conservation in the eyes or the predominantly Republican attendees most likely to be on the invite list. I suspect it will raise money, probably a lot of money. And I hope that money ends up being used for conservation groups.

Maybe I am missing the point. If so, I suspect some will enlighten me. And if the point of contention is the cost of attendance, then I suggest people making that point have never seen the entrance fee for high-level DC/NYC/LA social and political events. Those prices insure that a net profit is made, which is usually the objective of a fundraising event, in this case, a conservation event.

As for the recently created charity, there are plenty of charities that are set up for a single event and then re-grant those net proceeds to a plethora of qualified 501(c)(3) organizations. Not sure I follow the "so they may be giving it to themselves" comment, when the link shows the organization to be a Nonprofit Corporation. I suspect Texas non-profit law is similar to every other state I deal with, where there are big problems with self-dealing and inurement to the Directors.

Thanks for making us aware of the event. What I see so far has me intrigued for the potential benefits to conservation.

Real simple. The left will not tolerate the right trying to make inroads into what they consider their political turf. Remember the the fit the left pitched when Trump did some outreach to Afro Americans

 

[noharleyyet]

TOP DEFINITION
Get Western
A phrase heard during arguments and fights on industrial construction sites and in the oil & gas fields of Texas and New Mexico meaning that the individual is willing to escalate the fight to the point a gun is involved
"You keep runnin' your mouth like that and I'm liable to get western with you."

..on the other hand, if the dough goes to snowflake approved end users we'll get......crickets

 

[Nameless Range]

Ah yes. The Great American Reflex.

Someone says something bad about a member of the GOP. "But Hillary!"

Someone says something bad about a member of the Democrats. "But Trump!"

Last sentence inserted to preemptively quell HuntTalkers desire to engage in the Great American Reflex

To the OP. I'm not overly bothered by the fact that this is a fundraiser asking ridiculous money to do something lame. As others have pointed out, it's not uncommon in a lot of fundraising scenarios. Let's wait and see what the "conservation groups" are and then either praise or condemn them. By their fruits ye shall know them.

 

[BuzzH]

Real simple. The left will not tolerate the right trying to make inroads into what they consider their political turf.

I don't buy that theory at all.

You could fool me that either party has the market cornered on hunting/fishing/wildlife/public lands as their "political turf".

If the R's think they're going to attract more hunters to their side of the aisle with transfer as one of the planks of their platform, they need some serious smelling salts...

At the same time, if D's think they're going to skate by simply casting opposing votes on transfer, and not actively engaging sportsmen and doing more for us...they could use some of those same smelling salts.

The bottom line is, sadly, that Sportsmen are without a party that represents them and either party claiming same as their "political turf", need to take another look at what they have actually done (or not done) to falsely lay claim to that turf.

In my experience, there are typically only a handful from either party that seem to understand and give a chit about sportsmen, wildlife, public lands, etc.

BTW, the responsibility of educating our parties about the turf they claim is ON US.

 

[Ben Lamb]

I'll never back off of Texans for their love of wearing boots outside of their pants, even if they have good music, fine cheerleaders and the best bar-b-que.

As for the Trump event, meh. Everyone does it, especially in the swamp. Groups raffle off hunts w/ celebrities, etc all the time. Same for the political world - $5K - $10K a plate dinners, etc, have dinner w/ X candidate for bundling $300K, etc. I hope the funds go to a good charity, but the past track record of the Trump foundations is one of pilfering for their own ends, extravagant events w/ little actual return and questionable leadership.

As far as where it goes, since Don Jr. is a lifetime BHA member, hopefully they can profit from this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...f8e0dd91dc7_story.html?utm_term=.ffb9c9e45ff7

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...29979381495_story.html?utm_term=.79c4d4eb543c

http://www.salon.com/2016/09/26/is-...s-say-trump-foundation-is-in-serious-trouble/

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/21/us/politics/donald-trump-foundation-charity.html?_r=0

http://reverbpress.com/finance/eric-trumps-charity-troubles-deepen/

 

[Zach]

Just out of curiosity, what will be the response here if this money ends up in the bank of charities folks here are members of?

As peculiar as it is for a Republican DC event to be dedicated to conservation, I find it equally peculiar that so much is being made about this when nobody knows that the money won't end up being used for conservation. Are Republicans not allowed to have big dollar conservation fund raisers, the same as Hollywood does for environmental causes?

I had not heard of this event until Kat posted it. I think it is good to raise conservation in the eyes or the predominantly Republican attendees most likely to be on the invite list. I suspect it will raise money, probably a lot of money. And I hope that money ends up being used for conservation groups.

Maybe I am missing the point. If so, I suspect some will enlighten me. And if the point of contention is the cost of attendance, then I suggest people making that point have never seen the entrance fee for high-level DC/NYC/LA social and political events. Those prices insure that a net profit is made, which is usually the objective of a fundraising event, in this case, a conservation event.

As for the recently created charity, there are plenty of charities that are set up for a single event and then re-grant those net proceeds to a plethora of qualified 501(c)(3) organizations. Not sure I follow the "so they may be giving it to themselves" comment, when the link shows the organization to be a Nonprofit Corporation. I suspect Texas non-profit law is similar to every other state I deal with, where there are big problems with self-dealing and inurement to the Directors.

Thanks for making us aware of the event. What I see so far has me intrigued for the potential benefits to conservation.

Posted under a different handle this may get pages of responses...

Good reply.

Ben, TX isn't the only place pants get tucked into boots. You just have to have the right boots on for it to look proper.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Posted under a different handle this may get pages of responses...

Good reply.

Ben, TX isn't the only place pants get tucked into boots. You just have to have the right boots on for it to look proper.

Isn't Colorado Texas' back 40?

 

[Zach]

People here tell me it's CA East?

I see lots of TX plates though, mostly headed North to Jackson Hole...

 

[BuzzH]

If we could just teach Texans to wear the shit on the outside of their boots...the tucking in of pants would likely become a non-issue.

 

[noharleyyet]

Isn't Colofornia Texas' back 40?

Seriously???

 

[JoseCuervo]

The damage his campaign will do to the Republican Party will surely cost them their majority in the Senate, and probably the house. They may never win another presidential race in this life time.

That's what the fake news outlets said.

You don't seem to understand what fake news outlets said.

Would you care to explain Comet Pizza and "Pizzagate" in relation to your understanding of fake news outlets?

 

[Ben Lamb]

People here tell me it's CA East?

I see lots of TX plates though, mostly headed North to Jackson Hole...

JH is the second home to the oil industry. Lots of Okies there too.

CO is the playground of the regular 10 gallon Texans. You know, the guys who wear their pants inside their boots.

 

[JoseCuervo]

Just out of curiosity, what will be the response here if this money ends up in the bank of charities folks here are members of?

As peculiar as it is for a Republican DC event to be dedicated to conservation, I find it equally peculiar that so much is being made about this when nobody knows that the money won't end up being used for conservation. Are Republicans not allowed to have big dollar conservation fund raisers, the same as Hollywood does for environmental causes?

As for me, I don't have any concern if it ends up in the bank of charities that I am a "member" of. The more money I can see come into the coffers of the groups I am a member of, means more wins for hunters as we sue the beejeezus on behalf of salmon, elk, deer, etc.... I think that is a good thing!!!



My only concern with this "shindig" (that is a Texan word for "hoe--down") is the cast of characters who are putting this on, being supporters of transferring public lands. I know, the GOP wants to transfer our public lands, and all the GOP support of the issue, but some of us are going to choose to fight.


Plus, I hope you don't think people are paying $100k, $250k, and $1,000,000 for conservation reasons and for opportunities to go high-fence hunting in Texas with the Trump boys. The guys in DC who fork that type of money over are paying for ACCESS to Trump and his Boys, for the purpose of influencing them. Any other justification is mental gymnastics on the part of the justifier.

 

[noharleyyet]

If we could just teach Texans to wear the shit on the outside of their boots...the tucking in of pants would likely become a non-issue.

WOW! That's the funniest thing I've read in a while....but not as funny as watching you provide the tutorial.