Crooked Horn Antelope

[MTLabrador]

For the record for someone who decided I needed lessons, I know this one is a buck, but is far too skinny for me too take him. If it is an older buck then IN MY OPINION, he is rather emancipated. I think he is younger than what I was just told.

I know you said it’s a buck, I was just pointing out the difference between a 1.5 year old and a 2.5+ year old buck for people who don’t know the difference. The buck you posted is 2.5 or older.

 

[BuzzH]

Oh geez. Here we go again. Someone has to chime in. This is why some have left this forum. Gone for now. Enjoy.

Nobody is too old to learn...instead of taking your ball and going home, maybe try to educate yourself.

 

[rustneversleeps]

Oh geez. Here we go again. Someone has to chime in. This is why some have left this forum. Gone for now. Enjoy.

Like others have said I think you come across with good intentions, but some of the stuff you post isn't even questionable - its completely wrong or off base. Dont leave just listen more

 

[WyoDoug]

For someone else's benefit, I have been hunting deer and antelope before you were even in diapers. I hunt for meat primarily. My methodology may not be the same as yours, but that don't make it wrong or even off mark. Meat hunters and trophy hunters use different techniques and methods. It's time for the rude responses to stop, period. What I observe is a certain number of people in this forum that lurk in the background and chime in only when they want to instigate something.

 

[Walkathon]

I don't want to instigate anything but I agree with Doug. I think the buck is emancipated. I don't see a fence or a cage.

 

[Carl 9.3x62]

Then I would pass him up. I would have to pull the teeth and take it to a biologist, but either he is severely emancipated or sick or not as old as you think. You can tell for sure by counting the middle incisors present on each side and the amount of wear to them plus if or not the molars are present or in process of coming in. I would guess him to be younger than what you think.

Ok Doug. Go ahead and pass up your liberated buck. I'll gladly shoot him.

 

[Hummer]

A friend I hunt with sent me this image. I am unsure of date, need to ask him. Would work as an alternate if I can't find Big Grand Daddy this year.

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If only to put a crook into the trajectory of this thread, I offer this pic of a buck I took some years ago. He looks over my living room now.

 

[WyoDoug]

If only to put a crook into the trajectory of this thread, I offer this pic of a buck I took some years ago. He looks over my living room now.

Now this one is healthy. I would take this one.

 

[WyoDoug]

In response to why I say the antelope in the picture I posted is emaciated is you have to consider the habitat that it is on and there are close to 1000 head of antelope on FE Warren. There is dependent housing on two sides of this area and civilian housing borders the east side. There is a ranch with irrigated land to the north. There is plenty of tall grass to feed on and several lakes, ponds and streams. It was near the stables where there is plenty of hay and grain and the antelope sometimes hit the feed bunks there. There is just no way this guy should be this skinny without being emaciated . The patch of land he is on is well traveled by other antelope and deer. There is overcrowding on the base and this may have contributed to emancipation in some antelope. Residential areas are close by and generally provide plenty of nutritious green grass.

 

[EYJONAS!]

Try to save this thread a bit and maybe we just throw some non typical up. I chased this guy around with my bow for a season couldn't get within 80 I'm assuming a rifle hunter took him. I called him can opener.

I love non typical speedies.......

 

[timmy]

I believe the word we are going for here is emaciated.

 

[TOGIE]

a lot of nitpicky not worth debating things going on in this thread

cool pic doug

 

[WyoDoug]

I believe the word we are going for here is emaciated.

Uhhh yup LOL. You got me there.

 

[LuketheDog]

A while back we got to chase pronghorn on a huge private ranch for a few days, with 100s of good-looking bucks to choose from it was almost too easy. So, to make it a little more interesting I picked just one to pursue. His right side reminded me of a fleur de lis.

 

[BuzzH]

For someone else's benefit, I have been hunting deer and antelope before you were even in diapers. I hunt for meat primarily. My methodology may not be the same as yours, but that don't make it wrong or even off mark. Meat hunters and trophy hunters use different techniques and methods. It's time for the rude responses to stop, period. What I observe is a certain number of people in this forum that lurk in the background and chime in only when they want to instigate something.

WyoDoug, nobody doubts you've hunted for a while, but so have a lot of other people on the board here. But, you post a picture of a buck that is shedding its hair and claim it to be "emancipated". News flash, all the pronghorn across the street from house that I watch everyday, also looked, and some still do, look exactly the same way. I took a drive across Wyoming yesterday, over 600 miles worth, and a majority of the pronghorn I saw on that little jaunt were also ratty looking. Give them a couple few more weeks and they'll look much better.

As others have said, you're probably a good guy, but you spread misinformation with a lot of your posts...from regulations, to how to age a pronghorn, etc. etc.

Having others correct your mistakes, errors, and various other false information is not being rude.

 

[ClearCreek]

Then I would pass him up. I would have to pull the teeth and take it to a biologist, but either he is severely emaciated or sick or not as old as you think. You can tell for sure by counting the middle incisors present on each side and the amount of wear to them plus if or not the molars are present or in process of coming in. I would guess him to be younger than what you think.

I could tell you the age of that antelope before you could get out your knife to pull a tooth. Just pull down his lower lip and you can (well, at least I can) easily age to 4 1/2 years old.

And, that antelope would be the same age if he was very rotund or very skinny.

ClearCreek

 

[WyoDoug]

True @ClearCreek. When in doubt, I take the jaw bone in the the regional G&F biologist and ask questions. But counting the incisors and molars and premolars and judging how much of the molars are visible will give you a pretty good estimate of the age.

 

[BuzzH]

WyoDoug,

One glance...4.5+years old. You don't need to look at molars, premolars, or tooth wear. Its that simple.

 

[EYJONAS!]

If I'm meat hunting too fill a freezer, speedies are not at the top of my list.

 

[EYJONAS!]

WyoDoug,

One glance...4.5+years old. You don't need to look at molars, premolars, or tooth wear. Its that simple.

I dunno buzz could be a freak 1.5 year old.