Colorado wolves release update

[Sytes]

This is with an alleged 10 wolves (+2) in Colorado:
Wait until there's 900-1400+.

Meh, maybe stringers with flags will deter those wolves...

"Parks and Wildlife reported wolf attacks on livestock earlier this month that resulted in the death of a calf in Grand County, and later another calf in Jackson County. Parks and Wildlife has been working to notify livestock producers when wolves are known to be in an area. Black said that in the latest case of depredation, the agency provided advance notice to the livestock producer about the local presence of wolves but the attack unfortunately still occurred the next day."

CPW: Expect wolves in much of state | News | gjsentinel.com

 

[SAJ-99]

Can;t blame the wolves. Finding elk can often be difficult. Finding cattle on the other hand...

 

[mntatonka]

is the rumor I heard true, that the wolves they released in CO were nuisance wolves trapped in a different state?

 

[Sytes]

Can;t blame the wolves. Finding elk can often be difficult. Finding cattle on the other hand...

I've not seen anyone blaming wolves.

The international eco-enviro organizations and our own hunt/conservation organizations that failed to pony up $$$ on the other hand...

 

[SAJ-99]

I've not seen anyone blaming wolves.

The international eco-enviro organizations and our own hunt/conservation organizations that failed to pony up $$$ on the other hand...

No point in finding someone to blame. What is done is done. On to the next fight.

 

[Sytes]

No point in finding someone to blame. What is done is done. On to the next fight.

Identifying the cause begins the art how to avoid/counter/minimize such in the future.

 

[SAJ-99]

Identifying the cause begins the art how to avoid/counter/minimize such in the future.

Sure, but let's not dwell on it. Blaming is wasted energy. If we want to build support for a cause there are other things to focus on. Ranches not being compensated seems like an easy way to do that.

Colorado Capitol: New bill would make it harder for ranchers to be compensated for livestock killed by wolves

Colorado ranchers would have to use non-lethal wolf deterrence measures to be eligible for state compensation if their livestock is killed by the predators under a bill introduced Wednesday afternoon in the state legislature. Non-lethal...

www.steamboatpilot.com

 

[Sytes]

Example your specific organizations involved in hunt/conservation... Have you inquired their participation?
We missed this by 0.91% w/ 1/2 the international funding operation city slicker ballot box biologists.

RMEF stepped up. Largest independent donor.

How about others? This opened a power surge beyond prior eco-enviro settings. Their flyers promote the success bypassing CPW, etc.

 

[Sytes]

Sure, but let's not dwell on it. Blaming is wasted energy. If we want to build support for a cause there are other things to focus on. Ranches not being compensated seems like an easy way to do that.

Colorado Capitol: New bill would make it harder for ranchers to be compensated for livestock killed by wolves

Colorado ranchers would have to use non-lethal wolf deterrence measures to be eligible for state compensation if their livestock is killed by the predators under a bill introduced Wednesday afternoon in the state legislature. Non-lethal...

www.steamboatpilot.com

Colorado: HB 1375. Wolf Non-Lethal Tied To Rancher Compensation.

https://www.vaildaily.com/news/colorado-capitol-new-bill-would-make-it-harder-for-ranchers-to-be-compensated-for-livestock-killed-by-wolves/ "Colorado ranchers would have to use non-lethal wolf deterrence measures to be eligible for state compensation if their livestock is killed by the...

www.hunttalk.com

As discussed previously. Multitasking.

 

[Sytes]

Montana has some 1100 (POM projected) wolves and 58 cattle lost in 2022.
Colorado 10 wolves (-1 dead) (+2 resident wolves) and 8 cattle lost in April alone!
At this rate 20 cattle projected lost to 11 wolves in one year. and that is NOT factoring 8 lost in a single month not for the year!
*Basic math not counting other factors.
Close to 1/3 the cattle killed in Montana with 1% the wolf population in Colorado at the current projected rate.

These wolves found their prime rib in Colorado!

Davis has his hands heavy - weighing the problem primary wolf(ves), aka chronic depredator(s), need to keep the wolf den alive where it's believed the female has pups or remove/kill. The note shared in one of the rticles relates to biologists position parent wolves known for chronic depredation - leads to pups educated in the same fashion.
Top that off with the position (CPW will not share the specific collar #'s) were involved in Oregon cattle depredation before routed, contrary to CPW statement.

Retired wolf expert Carter Niemeyer told the Coloradoan in a story that published online April 22 that so many recent wolf depredations in one area of Grand County might mean the wolves have started to den in the area.

"The toughest decision with all of this is what if you have pups in a den right near where those recent depredations took place," he said in the story.

Ranchers have been riled up over the discovery previously reported by the Coloradoan that identified five of the 10 wolves released into Colorado belonged to Oregon packs that had confirmed livestock depredations between July 2023 and when they were captured in December 2023, according to Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife wolf depredation reports.

Most wolf experts agree depredating livestock is a behavior learned from wolf parents.

Colorado's released wolves believed to have den in vicinity of recent cattle kills

That information was revealed in Colorado Parks and Wildlife Director Jeff Davis' letter responding to requests to have the wolves lethally removed.

www.coloradoan.com

The toll of Colorado's wolf war: Rancher says Grand County on edge after wolf kills

Conway Farrell was a reluctant public player in the wolf depredation game until his fifth cattle loss in 11 days to wolves. He's silent no more.

eu.coloradoan.com

Colorado Governor Polis:

“I was a business owner myself,” he said. “Any cause of loss to a business is terrible and it’s even more emotional, obviously, for people who have deep connections to their cattle and their land.” “Voters knew that wolves would eat cattle, and they voted to reintroduce them anyway,” he said.

Eight cattle killed in April:

Livestock organization asks again for Colorado to kill problem wolves

In April, wolves have killed eight cows in Grand and Jackson counties, according to Colorado Parks and Wildlife.

www.9news.com

 

[bayoublaster7527]

Unencumbered by a re-election effort, Polis is really seeking to disadvantage rural Colorado residents, particularly ranchers, farmers, and hunters. It is hypocritical for him to claim that voters were aware of the damage wolves would do to livestock when the pro-wolf activists he supported spent millions on an information campaign that sought to minimize or dispel any concerns regarding depredation of livestock. I truly don’t envy the position this puts these our CPW officers in, caught between a zealous anti-agriculture Governor and local folks faced with serious economic losses.

 

[Buzzy]

is the rumor I heard true, that the wolves they released in CO were nuisance wolves trapped in a different state?

There’s an article in Western Hunter that states the name of a reporter who discovered that the wolves released were taken from packs that were known to have prayed on livestock.

In addition the jackasses released some in the same area that a lot of effort to help the bighorn sheep repopulate and is their winter range. So now they have ti suddenly learn to stay alive. That heard will be destroyed. Colorado has officially turned into a shit hole for wildlife conservation and hunting rights.

 

[Hunt&FishCO]

Colorado Wolf Depredations

Interesting how many confirmed / documented depredations we had prior to wolves “officially” be recognized in the state

 

[Hunt&FishCO]

There’s an article in Western Hunter that states the name of a reporter who discovered that the wolves released were taken from packs that were known to have prayed on livestock.

In addition the jackasses released some in the same area that a lot of effort to help the bighorn sheep repopulate and is their winter range. So now they have ti suddenly learn to stay alive. That heard will be destroyed. Colorado has officially turned into a shit hole for wildlife conservation and hunting rights.

From the Article:

“He said they have "high confidence'' that 2309, an adult gray-colored male from Oregon's Weneha pack, and 2312, a yearling gray-colored female without a pack name in Oregon, are the two wolves responsible for the depredations.

Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife's wolf depredation records show members of the Weneha pack had confirmed depredations of a cow Oct. 25, 2023, and a calf Sept. 18, 2023, just months before being captured and released in Colorado.”

 

[Sytes]

"Working dogs" added to "livestock" July 17th.

Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission voted unanimously Friday, July 19, to update state regulations to reflect the 10(j) rule’s language regarding “working dogs.”

Language allowing wolves caught “in the act of attacking” livestock or working dogs to be killed was included in the 10(j) rule but the words “or working dogs” were “inadvertently” left out of the state regulations, commission chair Dallas May said Friday.

"A permit is required to kill a wolf caught in the act, but it can be issued retroactively if an applicant can provide evidence meeting the criteria that the wolf was attacking livestock."

Suppose this can be chalked up as an after the fact, "win".

 

[LopeHunter]

Example your specific organizations involved in hunt/conservation... Have you inquired their participation?
We missed this by 0.91% w/ 1/2 the international funding operation city slicker ballot box biologists.

RMEF stepped up. Largest independent donor.

How about others? This opened a power surge beyond prior eco-enviro settings. Their flyers promote the success bypassing CPW, etc.

Has wolf introduction, once proposed as a possibility for a Western state, ever been denied or is it an inevitability? Utah comes to mind though eastern Utah touches western Colorado so with court actions Utah just got wolves once packs spill into Utah, yes?

 

[Hammsolo]

Can;t blame the wolves. Finding elk can often be difficult. Finding cattle on the other hand...

Slower and higher fat content too.

 

[SAJ-99]

Slower and higher fat content too.

Basically a refrigerator with legs.
Saw the article this morning that WA is considering taking out a couple of wolves that keep eating calves. I just chuckle. They would have been dead a long time ago in a lot of states.

 

[Sytes]

Has wolf introduction, once proposed as a possibility for a Western state, ever been denied or is it an inevitability? Utah comes to mind though eastern Utah touches western Colorado so with court actions Utah just got wolves once packs spill into Utah, yes?

From Utah's DNR:

Actions by neighboring states have complicated Utah’s ability to manage gray wolves under the ESA. For example, a current Colorado ballot initiative calls for Colorado Parks and Wildlife to implement a reintroduction of wolves west of the continental divide. If wolves enter Utah from Colorado, DWR must have the ability to manage them or there could be significant conflicts with agriculture and wildlife populations. Moreover, we are also concerned about the potential impacts of Colorado’s proposed introduction of gray wolves on the genetic integrity of the endangered Mexican wolf population in New Mexico and Arizona, and the ESA status of any intergrade wolves (hybrids of subspecies).

I believe any bs ballot box biology by a State that holds KNOWN inevitable opportunity for interstate should have been scrutinized by at least a federal injunction opportunity to stop a State infringing upon a neighboring State. Apparently, this is not the case(?).

I would have thought Utah's opposition to Colorado City slicker support for wolves (In Colorado) would inspire a federal injunction. I've not heard of any though. Anyone?

 

[LopeHunter]

From Utah's DNR:



I believe any bs ballot box biology by a State that holds KNOWN inevitable opportunity for interstate should have been scrutinized by at least a federal injunction opportunity to stop a State infringing upon a neighboring State. Apparently, this is not the case(?).

I would have thought Utah's opposition to Colorado City slicker support for wolves (In Colorado) would inspire a federal injunction. I've not heard of any though. Anyone?

Maybe the approach would be wolves would threaten a protected lizard or mammal if wolves migrate into a bordering state then use the legal slush fund anyone can tap that takes legal action under ESA.

Realistically, the boat just sailed. The West is repopulated with Canadian wolves which may not even be what was once in these Western states. Chasing migrating caribou for eons imprints those wolves to head into the next valley and the next until reach the ocean.

The Mexican gray wolf is smaller and behaves differently re territorial expansion, IIRC.

Not sure about the wolves I would see in Minnesota in the 1970s.

Predator populations left to die of natural causes will quickly change the eco-system including feeding on livestock, pets and might lose a few people, too. Grizzly bears kill a few people annually.

Weekend hikers in Colorado may be less than awed when pulled down by a packs of wolves.