VikingsGuy
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Did you even read the post you are responding too?
Colorado gun ban
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Addicting
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I would argue that the issue comes down to Money and being forced to pay a 3rd party to exercise a constitutional right.
If the Feds offered it at low cost guaranteed acceptance then maybe it may fly. But since when is Mutual of Omaha deciding my right to bear arms?
VikingsGuy
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That is obviously one side of the argument. It will depend on the mood of the court as to which way it goes, but things like taxes and insurance will likely peel off Roberts, and maybe Kavanaugh.
@VikingsGuy Its hard to talk about mental health when the left appoints a man pretending to be a woman as the head of Health and Human Services for all of America, promoting him to be a 4 star Admiral... The left has glorified mental disorders and the discussion of it is buried by the media. Responsible gun owners on the other hand are vilified and banned from expressing opinions on mental health - ie social media censorship and mainstream media propaganda. The mental health crisis will continue to be gaslighted with gun owners as the pariah.
As far as "glorifying" military type training and gear by civilians, thats not a problem. Our country was absolutely founded on the principle of the average citizen being able to defend the itself from any threat foreign or domestic. How mainstream media manipulates people into thinking its a problem, is the problem. Now let's couple that with how they glorify mental health issues and give 24/7 coverage to gun violence crimes that only fit their narrative - it only amplifies the issues.
Point being is the uniparty government is working hand in hand with media, medical, and education institutions to brainwash and control the masses. After the covid experiment it really sunk in to what level that actually works. I wish that was a tinfoil hat conspiracy but thank god the majority of the population has started to see the truth. Now its just getting people to speak and up and not be giant p*****s about standing for what is right.
Last being firearm insurance. Obamacare really f'd the system by legalizing the ability to fine and tax people for not paying for other peoples insurance. Does that monstrosity of a mistake of law transfer to a constitutional right to bear arms? You could argue that it does not. But for healthcare it was kept alive under the guise of "right to life". Scary proposition, and would price all but the wealthy out of firearm ownership.
As far as "glorifying" military type training and gear by civilians, thats not a problem. Our country was absolutely founded on the principle of the average citizen being able to defend the itself from any threat foreign or domestic. How mainstream media manipulates people into thinking its a problem, is the problem. Now let's couple that with how they glorify mental health issues and give 24/7 coverage to gun violence crimes that only fit their narrative - it only amplifies the issues.
Point being is the uniparty government is working hand in hand with media, medical, and education institutions to brainwash and control the masses. After the covid experiment it really sunk in to what level that actually works. I wish that was a tinfoil hat conspiracy but thank god the majority of the population has started to see the truth. Now its just getting people to speak and up and not be giant p*****s about standing for what is right.
Last being firearm insurance. Obamacare really f'd the system by legalizing the ability to fine and tax people for not paying for other peoples insurance. Does that monstrosity of a mistake of law transfer to a constitutional right to bear arms? You could argue that it does not. But for healthcare it was kept alive under the guise of "right to life". Scary proposition, and would price all but the wealthy out of firearm ownership.
VikingsGuy
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The consistent lack of support for mental health programs by prominent 2A politicians has long pre-dated the trans-fascination of the moment. This is a very weak excuse in response to my point.
As for the "gamification of war" all the little mini-Rambos running around do nothing to keep the nation safe. My silver star owning uncle used to mock them mercilessly and said he would rather have a hard working kid who kept his head down and minded his own business over any show boat wannabe once bullets were flying - peacocks don't win wars.
Nick87
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I'm no tactical Chad by any means, most of those guys come off as dorks to me. but I do remember the pro gun protest in Virginia recently. All those scary black guns and tactical gear. Not a single shot fired or anyone harmed that I remember (maybe there was, if so please correct me I sometimes don't remember). Was a perfect example of a peaceful protest and not what all the media would have everyone believe what it would be.
noharleyyet
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It’s not complicated, blue tribe state keeping the narrative on the page and out front as instructed.
VikingsGuy
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Reminds me of the over the top gay pride parades in the 80s/90s - did not support the narrative of “we are just like you”
Nick87
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You'll have to inform me a bit, wasn't before my time but it was before my time to be paying attention.
@VikingsGuy For mental health are you referring to the suicide rate by gun? Because that mental health issue I understand and would agree with you on, yet see no solution to it that still upholds the constitution. The current mental health crisis only amplifies the ongoing suicide one by magnitudes of 10. Being suicidal also seems to correlate to mass shootings - life ceases to have meaning to both situations.
Your uncle joined the military to protect our way of life and uphold the constitution. Granted he was from a different era, but those rights extend to tactical peacock chads too. Our power comes in numbers as the American citizens, We the People, are the largest standing army on earth. In war, numbers do matter, so yes peacocks can help win wars. At least our enemies will be aiming at the brotard's in their Hawaiian shirts while the rest of us go unnoticed.
@Nick87 The peaceful, extremely well armed Virginia protest, was the utmost example of the strength of the American People. That was a warning to the establishment cabal and the message was heard. It scared the hell out of DC and I think the retribution for that day was seen through their actions on Jan 6. Unfortunately the message heard was not a lesson learned.
@VikingsGuy You will have to fill me in too on the pride stuff, as well as other events before my time. Im almost 40, so as much as I follow history, I only know so much through my time on earth. I have a feeling you are a bit older than me.
Your uncle joined the military to protect our way of life and uphold the constitution. Granted he was from a different era, but those rights extend to tactical peacock chads too. Our power comes in numbers as the American citizens, We the People, are the largest standing army on earth. In war, numbers do matter, so yes peacocks can help win wars. At least our enemies will be aiming at the brotard's in their Hawaiian shirts while the rest of us go unnoticed.
@Nick87 The peaceful, extremely well armed Virginia protest, was the utmost example of the strength of the American People. That was a warning to the establishment cabal and the message was heard. It scared the hell out of DC and I think the retribution for that day was seen through their actions on Jan 6. Unfortunately the message heard was not a lesson learned.
@VikingsGuy You will have to fill me in too on the pride stuff, as well as other events before my time. Im almost 40, so as much as I follow history, I only know so much through my time on earth. I have a feeling you are a bit older than me.
VikingsGuy
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And why wouldn’t they? It is a winning hand in the suburbs. How about the Red folks coming up with alternatives short of carrying AKs to Walmart?
noharleyyet
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C'mon VGuy, you said red folks and alternative in the same sentence. Plenty of 'enforce existing law' alternatives...no?
VikingsGuy
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I am talking about a political strategy that isn’t a loser.
noharleyyet
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No my friend, you're declaring a default winner.
Free secondary education in trades & STEM along with the classic education you get w/an associate's degree & a national health service will do more to limit gun violence than any gun control bill.
I disagree.
"It's far more profitable to raise the alarm and go to war than it is to solve a problem."
Wayne "Hollywood Suit" LaPierre, 1997
(I made that quote up so don't get yer knickers in a twist)
noharleyyet
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VikingsGuy
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Mental health plays into violence across the spectrum - including suicides and mass shootings (which are often just performative suicides) and much in between. Our mental health system (public or private) is an embarrassment. It needs a huge investment in resources and better approaches - none of which violate the constitution.
As for an army - our army doesn’t want these nut jobs. Tactical chads are not adding any value to our preparedness and are making gun violence cool. That’s like saying gang bangers holding their glocks sideways are part of the big green machine of tomorrow. As for my uncle, he told very few stories, the few he shared were terrifying, he fought so his kids wouldn’t have to, not so some idiot could pretend to be as brave in their backyard as he was in Southeast Asia. He hid his silver and bronze stars from friends and family. He saw no glory in what he did - but it was done with honor and integrity - something the tactical chads have no concept of. Lots of peacock ROTC lieutenants were the first to die in real wars (some done by their own troops).
In the 80s/90s serious gay rights folks were undermined by the ridiculous performative largess of some gay pride parades (think naked 35 yo men on roll skates as a common attraction). Similarly, peaceful or not, the tactical Chads in Virginia were equally ridiculous and unhelpful to the real 2A cause. There is nothing strong about strutting around with a gun chanting “we will not be replaced” any more than shouting “river to the sea” at a posh university funded by daddy - big words out of the mouths of fools.
As for age, I almost have two decades on you.
VikingsGuy
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I have already said I would vote for you. Move to MN and I will personally get the signatures to get you on the ballot.
Never. Your state is dead to me now that Prince is no longer your reigning regent. I will suffer no pretenders to this throne!
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