Camping inside Hunter Management Area's (HMA)

[AIM STR8]

Looking at some areas to hunt Antelope in Wyoming that have HMA areas.

I notice that some HMA areas contain BLM land but the Ranch Rules for some say "No Camping". So, .... can a person camp on the BLM land if it's inside the HMA?

 

[Carl 9.3x62]

Looking at some areas to hunt Antelope in Wyoming that have HMA areas.

I notice that some HMA areas contain BLM land but the Ranch Rules for some say "No Camping". So, .... can a person camp on the BLM land if it's inside the HMA?

Call the local G&F office and ask them. Ask for the Access Yes Coordinator.

 

[AIM STR8]

Got it .. Thanks!!

 

[dan.kirkpatrick]

that is a good question,,let us all know what you find out.

 

[Bullshot]

I would think that if the HMA does not grant pass through access for the purpose of camping, then only day hunting can be done if you need to use deeded lands to get there. I.e, they have given conditional permission but if you break it you are trespassing (upon leaving back through their land, since you would no longer have rights to be there). But if you were to access only through BLM then normal BLM rules should apply since those are public in any case, just happen to be surrounded by ranch. Interested to hear the group’s consensus.

 

[wytex]

I would bet if the BLM is accessible from a public road then yes you can camp on it.
But yes, call a local WG&F office and make inquiries.

 

[Bighorner]

If a landowner is kind enough to enroll HMA and the BLM parcel is shown within the boundary, why not just find another place to camp? Seems like the intent is pretty clear, yes you can probably find loop holes, but you could also try and find a place that's not as convenient but a lot more considerate. The flip side is next year maybe you can camp there, but you can't hunt the private property previously enrolled?

 

[Bullshot]

If a landowner is kind enough to enroll HMA and the BLM parcel is shown within the boundary, why not just find another place to camp? Seems like the intent is pretty clear, yes you can probably find loop holes, but you could also try and find a place that's not as convenient but a lot more considerate. The flip side is next year maybe you can camp there, but you can't hunt the private property previously enrolled?

Not everyone has or can get an HMA pass. But if there is publicly accessible BLM it should be available to anyone for any activity allowed by BLM, pass or no pass, so long as you don’t have to cross private. That should not be viewed as a loophole. But if you do need to use the HMA pass to access across private to get to a landlocked parcel, then yes, it would be correct and courteous to respect any of the rancher’s access conditions. Only fair.

 

[ARK0M0]

Have you called the organisation that does the managing? They could tell you. They tend to be helpful people, in my experience

 

[AIM STR8]

OK .... I gave the WGF a jingle and asked them the question as stated in my post. I used the randomly selected example shown below for Pine Draw Hunter Management Area for Antelope 47.

You can see public road coming into BLM in the NW corner of the HMA. The WGF dude said to contact the BLM office of that district to be on the safe side and to find out what agreements were made to hunt the private and/or deeded land within the HMA. He said it's kind of a caveat and best to call the BLM office.

Hope that all makes sense.

 

[AIM STR8]

If a landowner is kind enough to enroll HMA and the BLM parcel is shown within the boundary, why not just find another place to camp? Seems like the intent is pretty clear, yes you can probably find loop holes, but you could also try and find a place that's not as convenient but a lot more considerate. The flip side is next year maybe you can camp there, but you can't hunt the private property previously enrolled?

I would agree totally. For me it was more of a curious question if no other options were available.

 

[TheTone]

OK .... I gave the WGF a jingle and asked them the question as stated in my post. I used the randomly selected example shown below for Pine Draw Hunter Management Area for Antelope 47.

You can see public road coming into BLM in the NW corner of the HMA. The WGF dude said to contact the BLM office of that district to be on the safe side and to find out what agreements were made to hunt the private and/or deeded land within the HMA. He said it's kind of a caveat and best to call the BLM office.

Hope that all makes sense.

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So it’s a public road that’s open year round? If that’s the case I don’t understand why you couldn’t camp on it and hunt the blm pieces the road passes through regardless of the hma

 

[Bullshot]

OK .... I gave the WGF a jingle and asked them the question as stated in my post. I used the randomly selected example shown below for Pine Draw Hunter Management Area for Antelope 47.

You can see public road coming into BLM in the NW corner of the HMA. The WGF dude said to contact the BLM office of that district to be on the safe side and to find out what agreements were made to hunt the private and/or deeded land within the HMA. He said it's kind of a caveat and best to call the BLM office.

The WGF’s answer sounds like they are just passing the buck. HMA is not a federal program, right?

 

[WapitiBob]

An open county road, crossing BLM that is engrossed within an HMA, is open for travel without an HMA permission slip. Hunting within said HMA is regulated by WYG&F; if you are joe citizen, you can camp on that BLM and WYG&F has no authority to tell you otherwise.