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Bullet holes 1,000 meters

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Probably a pipe dream but, what optics would one investigate that would allow seeing bullet holes in a paper target at 1k meters?
 
Putting remote cams aside for a minute, what might be the maximum range at which anyone could expect to see bullet holes in paper if it isn’t possible to see them at 1000, when using high quality optics?
 
Depends on your target, white paper targets can get challenging over 200-300 depending on the light. The shoot and see targets are better further than that but an 85mm high quality spotter is probably necessary. The remote cameras are gonna be a lot cheaper than a spotter to get the job done. Nice camera system runs under $500, the spotter would be over $1000.
 
Caliber size makes a difference too. The smaller the caliber the harder they are to see. Shooting and scoring in F Class on paper targets can get to be a little challenging with small caliber bullets. Painted steel is a great idea if you are not scoring shot placement in a competition. The ring of the steel is a great sound too.
 
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But that high quality 85mm spotter would serve pretty well for game as well right?
Yep, and should be able to see holes at reasonable hunting distances. The 1000 meter/yard game is a different animal all together. Steel is definitely the way to go over 200-300
 
When I shot F-class there weren’t many really good scopes over 32X. At the club match with no target pullers, the guys shooting Sightron and Nightforce 8-32X’s could see 7mm bullet holes at 500yds under more conditions than I could see .30cal bullet holes through a Weaver T-36. The glass in a T-36 is not quite as good as what goes into a Sightron S-III, but it’s close, and with two fewer lenses, the difference is not as much the glass as it is the objective diameter. Off the top of my head I think the T-36 has a 42mm objective and the S-III and Nightforces on the line had 56mm objectives. At the sanctioned matches I shot there was no reason see bullet holes because you had a target puller marking your shots with a a large disc, so I can’t say I’ve ever tried to see bullet holes beyond 500yds. At the 1000yd matches, the scorer actually sat next to the shooter and used a spotting scope to read what the target puller marked. Most guys actually used ultra cheap 60X spotting scopes with massive objectives, and the optical quality was impressive considering the price of the glass.

Put shortly, I don’t know the max range at which you can see bullet holes but the largest objective possible is a big help. Eventually, you end up with so much mirage that nothing really helps. Early morning, evening, cloud cover, and a mirage shield over your barrel help defeat mirage.
 
remote cameras and, of course, traditional pits with a target puller in it.

On very rare occasion, I have seen bullet holes from 1000 yds. But only for .45 caliber and optimal sighting conditions and contrasting backstop sand.

I was using a Leica 80mm spotting scope, but on those days where they are visible, lesser scopes could see them too.
 
There’s some great feedback given here thanks. We do shoot steel and can easily see the splash as well. The vortex 20-60x80 we use shows us holes at 200m. It’s time to upgrade hence the questions about what gear there is available that shows paper holes as far out as possible. We do not intend to shoot beyond 400m hunting maximum.
 
I have one of the early remote cameras and have used it out to 800 yards all though it drops signal often. Only done that distance a few times as i sight in my rifles at 100 yard increments to see how close they really are with the hash or dials. The camera saves a lot of time and ammo. My Vortex 20-60x80 is acceptable out to 400-500 yards most days in the Vegas desert. But those reactive targets that change color are what make all the difference. I have been meaning to test some of my rifles at the 1000 yard mark but i think i might have to take a 4wheeler to run back and forth from my shooting table / setup. The remote camera is just so handy to use so that's my vote but i always take both.
 
Probably a pipe dream but, what optics would one investigate that would allow seeing bullet holes in a paper target at 1k meters?
I am pretty sure there isn't a scope that can do that. This is an 80x (yes 80x) scope view at 1,100 yards, I don't think a person could see a bullet hole at that distance. Most of the time when we are shooting out that far it is a hit or miss that counts. We use steel targets and listen for the dong from impact. Adjustments for perfect accuracy aren't really possible at that range it becomes more about the indian than the bow.
 

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