Methinks that our inversions and general lack of sunshine for nine or so months of the year would make this a rather poor investment.
BHA can now celebrate. Hypocrites
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BuzzH
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Wasting your time with hossblur, he doesn't understand that when decisions are already made regarding how elk are managed, nothing that the RMEF will say, or do, can change that.
He lives in a fantasy-like world of black and white.
It shows how little he knows and understands how these things work.
So, their wasn't a third choice?
Neutrality?
Shut up?
Take off the blue jersey?
When asked, refer to the Mission Statement?
They were forced to publically support a bill?
They sure don't seem to mind keeping their mouths shut on predators. They are a hunting group, right?
Neutral. Google it
Been to Utah? Ever?
brocksw
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I think it was towards the end of this decade that they figured they complete that project.
Or, perhaps I recognize BS when I see it.
How did your chapter vote on the position of green energy development on public land?
Actually, yes. Drove through twice in the last few months. Jealous that they had bright sunny days in the middle of winter both times. Also jealous that the state has In-N-Out Burger. And, those adventure-themed gas stations had pretty good burritos.
Was not at all envious of the NJ Turnpike like traffic on I-15. Where was everyone in such a hurry to get to?
BuzzH
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The bill passed, what choice is there for anybody at that point?
THERE wasn't a third choice, I think everyone already has conceded the point that there was a ball dropped by not demanding the same accountability on bonding, NEPA, etc. for all development. I agree with that as well. Its unfair to put different demands on essentially the same type of development.
But there was NO stopping the bill, it passed and America needs energy. No different than trying to stop an OG lease sale once its opened, or stopping OG development once the leases are purchased.
All you can do is make chicken salad out of chicken chit at that point, and that's ALL we can do as public land advocates. That's different than supporting development from the get-go.
You don't get it...you truly don't.
If you can't grasp reality, that's on you...and I'm done explaining reality to you.
In and out, is pretty overrated. Just a symbol of the infilltration of the west coast
You got lucky. Utah inversions are pretty infamous.
Hurrying to get to Wyoming and Idaho for Powerball
They supported the bill BEFORE it was passed.
BEFORE, as in prior to.
So YUP, they had every opportunity to stay neutral.
And I didn't hit them on weak regs, you did.
I congratulated them on their hypocrisy.
BEFORE IT PASSED.
Do you want a list of every hunting, fishing, outdoors group that figured out how to remain neutral? Or will the 3 that didn't suffice.
Don't rewrite history.
Ps.
I know dudes in your chapter, who left, for the same reasons. And they helped start your chapter. Guess they just don't get it either
brocksw
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I believe the the NEPA process for permitting Solar fields on BLM was already a requirement. As is any major federal action taken that affects the environment. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
NEPA Review Process for Projects in SEZs [BLM Solar Energy Program SEZ Policies]
Describes the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) process for projects in SEZs under BLM's Solar Energy Program.
BuzzH
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I started the Chapter...there was nobody on the board, I was it, so I have no idea who you're talking about.They supported the bill BEFORE it was passed.
BEFORE, as in prior to.
So YUP, they had every opportunity to stay neutral.
And I didn't hit them on weak regs, you did.
I congratulated them on their hypocrisy.
BEFORE IT PASSED.
Do you want a list of every hunting, fishing, outdoors group that figured out how to remain neutral? Or will the 3 that didn't suffice.
Don't rewrite history.
Ps.
I know dudes in your chapter, who left, for the same reasons. And they helped start your chapter. Guess they just don't get it either
People come and go off the board for all kinds of reasons, I will too at some point.
As to the rest, I'm done responding to your nonsense...argue with someone else who cares.
You obviously don't care.
Trust me, I made the list of dudes who would wade in and try to protect "the precious". Alphabetically, you were #1. But I agree, the point got made.
The next massive solar farm eating up thousands of public acres, I'll simply post BHA Mission Statement.
Too bad. I actually agree with 80-90% of what BHA does/ wants.
Just not a big team jersey guy, like their leadership is.
Straight Arrow
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I am not on that list as I am not trying to protect anything other than HT space. I simply tire of all the bloviation and your redundant attempts to make a point already expressed many posts ago. It seems an annoying typical ploy is to repeat and argue ad nauseum, somehow thinking the redundant repetition strengthens your position. It unfortunately merely paints an unpleasant image, blurring the otherwise valid position.
Annoying is knowing the personal politics of BHA leadership, knowing they very openly advocate for party and candidate, then listening and reading the fanboys try to look past the elephant in the room, and try to spin and rewrite history.
It's no well hidden secret which way the long time and frequent posters in HT lean with BHA. I knew it would be 15 vs 1 on the average.
I also already knew the excuses that would be made. I ran this up the flagpole BEFORE the bill got passed. Same lame excuses made then as now, mostly by the same guys.
Getting your religion challenged sucks I guess. That's what the coolaid is for
Thanks for protecting HT space from having to hear bad things about "the chosen".
Let's get back to bashing Mike Lee
FI460
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7 page recap:
Hoss doesn't like BHA.
BHA is supported by some folks on HT.
Nobody is changing anyone else's mind.
Go team.
Hoss doesn't like BHA.
BHA is supported by some folks on HT.
Nobody is changing anyone else's mind.
Go team.
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Buzz cares... of anyone on the thread who would actively put up a stink about a shitty project in WY there is no doubt in my mind it would be Buzz.
and when I say put up a stink, I mean actually do something rather than complain on a forum.
Guess you missed the sarcasm. Even with the emoji.
Straight Arrow
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... do something rather than complain on a forum ad nauseum!
No.
I actually like 80-90% of what. BHA does and tries to do. To the point of losing a ranch to hunt on for wearing a BHA hat, to losing business over them being open to Patagonia.
I don't like the politics steering them in directions opposed to their own mission.
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