Balistics on the .270, 7mm, 300 WSM

[Moosie]

I would like to look at a side by side comparison on a chart. I know thre are a milllion of them. Different barnes, nosler, swift, etc. But I would like to see a side by side energy chart liek the link below :

http://www.cpcartridge.com/270wsmB.htm

To see the grain bullet, FPS out of the rifle, and what the energy is at 200-500 yards. The table I found is only the .270WSM.

Any good links ?

Disclaimer: I just buy Walmart bullets, I don't reload, I don't shoot a ton, I don't really care..... but, my boys wants to study them so he can pick up a gun and he likes this crap like a lot of you guys do

 

[Big Fin]

Let me make this easy for you Moosie.

Buy him a .270 Win in any good rifle action. It will kill everything in North America. When he gets older and has his own money, he can go buy his own rifle and make it a round that fits his hunting perfectly.

Then when the other boys reach hunting age, buy them the same thing - a .270 Win. They can share ammo, etc.

You are overthinking this way too much. I have a .270 Win and a .270 WSM. The .270 Win is one that comes out of the safe for most anything I hunt in Montana.

For whatever reason, it kills way better than it should. It shoots 140 grain and 150 grain bullets way better than I do. If a Nosler Partition hits the animal, it is going to kill it, so long as I have done my job. Whether that be elk, antelope, or anything in between.

Now, go buy some of those Federal Wal-Mart bullets for a .270 Win and get on with this project. I think you already have a pretty darn good scope to put on it.

Get the trigger adjusted to right around three pounds, and O-Town will be killing anything that gets in his way, which seems to happen quite often.

 

[Drake4]

Let me make this easy for you Moosie.

Buy him a .270 Win in any good rifle action. It will kill everything in North America.

Hard to argue with 85 years of success.

Here is a link that shows generic ballistic charts for lots of different caliber/bullet combos.
http://www.shootingtimes.com/ballistics/

 

[Buckmania]

I agree with FIN 100%. However, I think a 300 WSM is the hot tip, especially since your boy is going to grow into a rifle fairly quickly. The reason I opt for the 300 is that I'm a big fan of the .30 cals and the greater margin for error that is allowed given the human factor. People want to use the "overkill arguement" all the time but the the trump card is most of the time you can be a little off on a shot and the extra oomph from .30 cal will provide the forgiveness needed to put down the animal quicker. Don't get me wrong, I hate recoil and love my 25-06 but for an all around rifle I'd go with the .300 WSM hands down and if not that then the trusty time proven 30-06 with 180 grains. Heck, Greenie uses his 300 RUM for Antelope and I doubt many can argue his success.

 

[fowladdict]

You are overthinking this way too much.

Who would have thunk Moosie was capable of such a thing

 

[blue devil]

.270 is a great caliber, I own one. .280 is great caliber, I own one. They are both more than capable of killing any animal in North America. In my opinion, .270 is a safe, FUN caliber to shoot. If you like recoil, buy a 7mm or 30-06. I also own those and rarely shoot them, due to the recoil. I kill just as much with the .270 and .280 and have a lot less headaches doing it. Good Luck in your purchase

 

[Big luke1981]

Hey Moosie, I came across this chart which may help you out a little. It compares the diffrent WSM's and regular mags. Hope it helps.

http://www.browning.com/library/infonews/detail.asp?id=5

 

[mtmiller]

Oscar,

I think this is the one I had on my old computer. You can compare side-by-side.

http://www.federalpremium.com/resources/ballistics_application.aspx

 

[noharleyyet]

http://www.winchester.com/LEARNING-CENTER/Pages/Ballistics-Calculator.aspx

 

[T Bone]

get the old boring 270 win like Fin said, or even better a 30-06.

 

[belly-deep]

The reason I opt for the 300 is that I'm a big fan of the .30 cals and the greater margin for error that is allowed given the human factor. People want to use the "overkill arguement" all the time but the the trump card is most of the time you can be a little off on a shot and the extra oomph from .30 cal will provide the forgiveness needed to put down the animal quicker.

There is no such thing as "oomph" that will buy you more error

Having a larger gun does NOT allow you to hit further away from the vitals or to momentarily "stun" an animal like you suggest

It may help you break bigger bones, get more penetration, or leave a better blood trail, but that argument is not as strong with a .277"/.308" comparison as it is with a .243/.308" comparison

With proper bullet selection, a .270 is just fine

A .270 with a softer, and thus more likely to fragment, bullet will kill an animal with a hit to the guts quicker than say, a 30 cal barnes x.

 

[vander34]

I must agree with fin, Mines a ruger .270. It shoots 140 grain partition great, and Hasn't had a single problem killing anything I've put in the scope.

 

[174in]

Yea I like the 270 wsm and the regular 270 win.If it was me and I had my choice to buy a new one it would be the old reliable 270 winchester it is alot better choice for the non handloader.There are so many differnt factory rounds that can be found for the cartridge.I thinks your money would be better spent if you got him that caliber with a good vx3 with the cds turret or boone and crockett redical.JMO

 

[Moosie]

get the old boring 270 win like Fin said, or even better a 30-06.

I haven't owned a 30-06 since I moved out of the trailer house...............

THANKS for the links guys !!!

 

[Bambistew]

Check at local sporting goods stores... go to the gun counter and grab a copy of the free gun catalogs. They used to have balistic tables in them and you could compare all calibers/loads at once.

 

[Calif. Hunter]

That is really cool, Oscar. I did the same kind of thing at that age. I gave you a couple links. I like this one for my handloads after I've chrono'ed them. It still requires verification by actually shooting, but then I tape them on my stock if I anticipate long shots.

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi

 

[noharleyyet]

It'll be interesting to hear you son's input after he researches.

 

[Lawnboy]

I haven't owned a 30-06 since I moved out of the trailer house...............

THANKS for the links guys !!!

Oh great you move out and I still have this lot in the park. Well you can just take your snooty Boise butt elsewhere because like the scripture says "As for me and my trailer house we will shoot the 30-06."

 

[mtmiller]

Oscar,

I know it is fun to look at the different ballistics, but since you don't intend to reload I would suggest the trailer house caliber. A lot to be said about the '06.

 

[drahthaar]

My dad bought me a .270 and a tasco scope when I was 12. He never hunted, didn't know anything other than what people told him. I started shooting that, killed several elk, and a pile of deer with it, never lost but one mulie buck when I was 15 or so. I grew up, went to college, got a job, finally had money to buy a new gun, and then I bought........ another .270, but this time, went "big time" and got a Leupold vari xII.

.270 is a great gun. But alas, if your son is reading all the hunting forums, he will surely not get that impression, it will be engrained in his head that he is undergunned and will probably always be looking out of the corner of his eye at the guy holding the 300 magnum.