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ATV hunters wonder where the elk are!!

Ithaca 37

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"After packing out of the mountains, two hunters drove up to us at the trailhead on their ATVs and asked whether we´d had any luck. I said yes, both my wife and I had killed bulls. “You´re lucky,” one said. “We´ve been hunting all week and haven´t seen an elk.”"

http://www.idahostatesman.com/Opinion/story.asp?ID=54564


"Last month my wife and I packed into Idaho´s Frank Church-River of No Return Wilderness for a two- week hunt to renew our spirits and our winter meat supply.
We saw elk, moose, deer and the tracks of wolves, cougar and bears. We watched blue, ruffed and spruce grouse. We marveled at the mosaic of wildlife habitat shaped by centuries of wildfire and the miracle of chinook salmon spawning in crystal streams hundreds of miles from the ocean.

We also saw other hunters: four backpackers from Washington, others from Oregon and California. Two drove from West Virginia. One of the horse groups trailered their horses from Florida.

After packing out of the mountains, two hunters drove up to us at the trailhead on their ATVs and asked whether we´d had any luck. I said yes, both my wife and I had killed bulls. “You´re lucky,” one said. “We´ve been hunting all week and haven´t seen an elk.”

The other one looked around at the horse trailers, pickups and stock trucks, then pointed at our license plate. “Yours and ours are the only Idaho plates here,” he grumbled.

I finished loading a horse and looked at the two. “We must have something that other states don´t have.”

After they left I wondered whether they knew what the hunters from West Virginia, Florida, Washington and Oregon knew — that Idaho´s unroaded lands cradle some of the best wildlife habitat and wilderness hunting experience in the world.

Idaho´s 4 million wilderness acres and 12 million acres of unprotected roadless land have become this state´s most valuable natural asset. In the Interior Columbia River Basin, 60 percent of the best remaining trout and salmon habitat, 85 percent of the healthiest populations of all western cutthroat trout species and 76 percent of the remaining healthy populations of bull trout are found in roadless areas. In Idaho roadless areas provide roughly one-third of inland habitat for chinook salmon and trout.

Studies also show that Idaho´s rural economic base is shifting. In 2001 the salmon/steelhead season generated nearly $90 million in rural Idaho. That same year, in the small town of Riggins near my home, fishing brought in $10 million — one quarter of its annual income.

But there´s a hitch. Salmon, trout and steelhead are largely dependent upon pristine water protected by roadless areas. And those areas are shrinking. Between the late 1980s and 1997, more than 1 million acres of Idaho´s roadless lands were lost. This “leakage” is still occurring. And not just from traditional road construction. Illegally created ATV trails in our national forests were recently listed as one of four major threats, alongside wildfires, by Forest Service Chief Dale Bosworth.

The antidote is permanent protection for our last roadless lands, including wilderness designation. Current efforts to protect these lands in places such as the Owyhee Canyonlands and the Boulder-White Cloud Mountains reflect that reality.

I was thinking about this as my wife and I began the drive home from the trailhead. But mostly I was thinking of how lucky we are to live in Idaho."

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Ithaca 37 - Excellent article and congrats on filling the freezer! This year, as many hunters here in Idaho are well aware of, many hunting units around the state were banned for off-road use with atv's. I hunted deer and elk in SE Idaho this fall and we saw a lot of game. It just goes to show that there are other uses for feet other than shifting and braking. Was it hard hunting and hiking...yes, but it was well worth it. I hope for the sake of the animals that they keep the atv restriction in place. It just makes the kill worth more when you have to actually "work" for it.

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Ithaca,

Ya know many people use and depend on their ATV,s. Me personally, I hate 'em. I have noticed Idaho does put a gate on roads and closes them down to motorized travel. Yes, my friend, you are lucky. Utah just doesn't get it.

Most times, when choosing an area to hunt, I look for no roads and the benefit of the use of my horses. I am kinda messed up physically and if it wasn't for the hayburners, I would quit hunting.

The roads are important access tools, but only to a certain point. Utah is covered with them and it doesn't seem to matter where you go on an ATV.

Road closures would only benefit the herds and the lands in my most humble opinion.
 
ktc- Welcome aboard! I too have been amazed at the number of roads on most UT lands. I was working around Stawberry in September and was astounded at the number of roads. There are very few ridges without roads along the top. True, some are closed, but that didn't deter those hunting at the time. The F&G almost closed the general elk hunt down in that area a few years ago due to illegal ATV use. The elk were getting ran ragged!

BTW, what part of UT do you call home?
 
Spiker,

Thanks for the welcome.

I am fom Lehi
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When I wrote that reply Strawberry came to mind. There are roads taking off up canyons all the way up Daniels all the way to Current Creek. The Manti unit is no better. The roads don't seem to have the impact in the draw areas that they do in the general hunting units. Utah just plain and simple needs to control things.
 
Thanks, was just curious. I'll be chasing cows just south of you next weekend - Springville unit. Yeah, UT needs to get a handle on the roads, especially the illegal ones. The BLM ground west of SLC is criss-crossed with 'em, but not much can be done because of Hill AFB.
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We'll have to meet up sometime. I'd love to learn how to ride one of those hayburners!!
 
Spiker,

Good luck on your elk hunt. It should be cold for ya.

Those hayburners are worth their weight in gold
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, However, they can be a pain in the butt
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if ya know what I mean.

The horses allow me to access areas I can no longer get to without them. Also, if ya don't kill nothin' ya went for a good ride
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Odd, f&g up here is telling everyone that there have been twice as many elk killed this year over last year. I shot a little cow, but that's just me.
 
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