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Anti hunting group buys hunting rights

I'm well aware of corner crossing. So $150k opens up 8 million acres?

Did you forget about this?


Looks like there's at least 2,100 of us hunters who care about corner crossing.

Isn't 2100 people like 10% of the nonresident elk tags sold in just Montana?

Those are rookie numbers.

Edit: Buzz beat me to it.
 
The last part is an interesting question. I don't know the answer.

To clarify, I know it is a fundraiser, but if you are getting something in return it can hardly be classified as "giving". Trust me, I know how the sausage is made on these. My wife loves a good fundraiser. Every year I have to explain how the IRS views her "giving" in exchange for that item she purchased. It's an uphill climb.
I fish in several tournaments every summer that are fundraisers. It's for a good cause, but there's also an opportunity to win some $. It's a win win for all parties involved!

Not a tax write off though with the opportunity to win money.
 
Have you tried a fundraiser?

Is there an article or anything showing that you're looking for $150k? Do you have a gofundme set up, or a site set up to accept donations? Where do people donate? How do you expect people to donate if no one knows you need $150k??
 
So what?

That's why they win and we lose...but, but, but...it was _______________(fill in the blank org or individual) that gave them the money.

Lots of rich hunters, but again, unless there's something in it like a governors sheep tag, they won't, and don't, cut the checks.
We lose? The orgs I'm involved with are doing good work. Sounds like your orgs are having trouble raising money.
 
We lose? The orgs I'm involved with are doing good work. Sounds like your orgs are having trouble raising money.
So when you booking a hunt where the hunting rights were bought out in B.C.?

Funny what you consider a "win"...

How much money did your orgs donate to stop the trapping ban in NM? How about spring bear in WA?

Is that "more winning"?
 
I would like to interrupt this wonderful discussion about fundraising for hunting organizations to remind folks that Coloradans for Responsible Wildlife Conservation could use your support. Hunting in Colorado is in a perilous situation with at least two anti-hunting ballot initiatives pending. CRWM is on the front lines of this fight, no organization does more to preserve our hunting traditions in Colorado. If you are a Colorado hunter or care about the future of hunting in the west, please consider a donation.


Carry on.
 
Pretty good general breakdown.

 
I would like to interrupt this wonderful discussion about fundraising for hunting organizations to remind folks that Coloradans for Responsible Wildlife Conservation could use your support. Hunting in Colorado is in a perilous situation with at least two anti-hunting ballot initiatives pending. CRWM is on the front lines of this fight, no organization does more to preserve our hunting traditions in Colorado. If you are a Colorado hunter or care about the future of hunting in the west, please consider a donation.


Carry on.
This should be bumped every week, maybe even have it's own thread.
 
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I would like to interrupt this wonderful discussion about fundraising for hunting organizations to remind folks that Coloradans for Responsible Wildlife Conservation could use your support. Hunting in Colorado is in a perilous situation with at least two anti-hunting ballot initiatives pending. CRWM is on the front lines of this fight, no organization does more to preserve our hunting traditions in Colorado. If you are a Colorado hunter or care about the future of hunting in the west, please consider a donation.


Carry on.
@BuzzH You've dodged my question multiple times. Post up a link or something where you're trying to raise $150k. How are hunters supposed to support a cause if you don't provide any way for them to support it???

Complaining doesn't help anything. I figured you'd know that by now.

bayoublaster knows what's up. He shares a link you can click on and donate at.
 
Calm down Senior. You know Patagonia kicked in the lions share of those dollars.

Maybe they have... but I've never heard of bass pro contributing to anything as far as conservation or access, and they are significantly larger than Patagonia. Love em or hate'em but Patagonia puts their money where there mouth is often, hunting corps... not so much if ever.

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Maybe they have... but I've never heard of bass pro contributing to anything as far as conservation or access, and they are significantly larger than Patagonia. Love em or hate'em but Patagonia puts their money where there mouth is often, hunting corps... not so much if ever.

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The Johnny Morris foundation gives a lot of $ for a variety of issues.Cabelas & Bass Pro are usually generous with donations to small orgs and large, and they collect $ at the register for a select group of orgs (round up your purchase, type thing).

They just don't have as nice of a pr machine as Yvon.
 
I personally think this is bullshit, but they played by the rules and won

Hopefully they do plenty of hiking and have run ins with the warm cuddly grizzly families they think are their friends.
 
They just don't have as nice of a pr machine as Yvon.

nobody does. the PR machine of the anti hunting campaign is just a bunch of intangible feel good; the goals of which are just wispy ideas that nobody understands and just float in the ether.

it can't be matched, unless we stoop. the average hunter is an insanely gullible person, it should be much easier to trick them into spending money on conservation

my ideas:
  • more women in bikinis at DU and RMEF events
  • convince them the mutualists goals are simply to raise license fees
  • we need a sweeping campaign painting the mutualists as gun grabbers and socialists
  • the mutualists took their jobs
  • they are trying to ban hamburgers
 
My view of donations is quickly getting right up there with my disdain for tipping. Between Non-profit orgs doing banquets, politicians asking for $20, one-offs like a gofundme, and homeless asking for change I am just burned out. Maybe it is the time of year?

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My view of donations is quickly getting right up there with my disdain for tipping. Between Non-profit orgs doing banquets, politicians asking for $20, one-offs like a gofundme, and homeless asking for change I am just burned out. Maybe it is the time of year?

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No matter where you go they're asking for donations...

I swing by taco bell occasionally for lunch. Every single time they ask if I want to round up and donate to the taco bell scholarship... No... Donate the money you're making off of myself and everyone to fund your own scholarship.
 
I don't see 55 year old duck hunter in speedo.

That's worth at least $2.47.

Patagonia spreads their money around and they fund a ton of hunting groups. Most of the major donors work like this - spread the funding & cast a wide net: Wyss, Wilburforce, Hewlitt, etc.

A lot t of those funders are moving away from funding hunting orgs though, as those funders move to a more DEIJ focused push, or want to go with federal lands conservation. Issues like season setting, corner crossing, etc aren't funded by those big donors and so it makes what @BuzzH is doing that much more difficult. Add in the politics and it gets murkier.

The $35 member model used to work when there were smaller populations & less competition for donations. Now, as folks have mentioned, there's a big race to separate people from cash with prizes. Which is ridiculous to me as those prizes are huge costs (guns, etc are purchased at wholesale) and so the ROI on raffles, etc is minimal.

Buzz ain't wrong. Some of these groups can drop a fundraising email and in 48 hours pick up $50k. That's a function of scale as much as fervor. When hunters are about 10% of the population, you have a tremendously limited pool.

BHR isn't wrong either. Some groups can do similarly in the hunting world (WSF for example) through other means. WSF is one of the best examples of fundraising as is RMEF in the sporting world.
 
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