Admit to Causing Point Creep

[Ben Sellers]

This year I put in for a Colorado deer tag with 2 more points than is usually necessary (2 points in a 0 point unit). Does anyone else want to admit to being that guy or gal that jumped in with more points than needed and if so what motivated you to do so? In my case, it was just to have a deer tag while on my OTC elk hunt. A buddy has hunted this unit multiple times and usually sees good deer but never gets a deer tag.

 

[QuazyQuinton]

So what you're saying is you let two people draw BEFORE they would otherwise have drawn if you had applied sooner.

QQ

 

[SaskHunter]

Your points, your call... I was talking to a friend and trying to explain to him the whole process for a deer app. He applied in a purely preference point system with less than max points which is what's needed to draw with only something like 5% odds for max points...

His points, his call.

 

[Bob-WY]

Can't speak for CO, but this wouldn't really be point creep in WY. If it's a 0 point unit, you simply WILL draw and that's one less tag available to those with 0 points, doesn't really change their odds in reality.

 

[Ben Sellers]

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with using more points than is necessary because:
a) points represent years of applying and money invested. There is nothing unethical to me about jumping in with much more time and money invested than everyone else.
b) if you have the enough points to go on the hunt you want, you should go on that hunt.

I’m curious as to why people do this. My personal situation is that I’m hunting a new unit (to me, not to my buddy) and so I want the tag.

 

[Jwill]

Better too many than not enough.

 

[KipCarson]

The way I see it is you helped mitigate point creep, you took yourself out of line in an another area that would’ve taken more points and got a tag where anyone could draw. I guess it’s the glass half-full viewpoint. Everyone staying in the fight trying to get to the front of the line somewhere is what causes point creep in my mind.

 

[WapitiBob]

I was guilty as well, using the same 2 points on a zero point hunt. I had no reason to hold on to them with the plan I have going forward so I used them. From here on out it's a first choice app on a zero point hunt right up till enough people are doing it that it starts to take points.

 

[rwc101]

I have no points in any state other than Wyoming, so I can look down at you all in contempt and self righteousness (as usual).

 

[Z Barebow]

It's your "soap". (Points) Shower as fast and as long as you want too! LOL!

 

[SummitsCalling]

Your points right? I have 6 cow elk points in a not to be named state that usually takes 1-2 points for what I want. I just have not had the time, probably will bring a friend

 

[Bullshot]

For elk I have been at it for 22 years and still probably 20 to go....

Which approach seems more stupider?

 

[BradA]

I applied in a unit in Colorado that last year was drawn with one point I applied with three points this year. With that being said 30 percent of the guys that applied with one point for that unit drew a tag 100 percent for guys with two points or more.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

This year I put in for a Colorado deer tag with 2 more points than is usually necessary (2 points in a 0 point unit). Does anyone else want to admit to being that guy or gal that jumped in with more points than needed and if so what motivated you to do so? In my case, it was just to have a deer tag while on my OTC elk hunt. A buddy has hunted this unit multiple times and usually sees good deer but never gets a deer tag.

This is not what causes point creep, point creep is idiots buying bear points in hopes of drawing Oso or elk points for unit 10, your aren’t going to draw, too few tags too many people give it up. lol

 

[dan.kirkpatrick]

the unit i tried for had a 58 pct chance w 2 deer points and i got it with 2 points,,2nd season appears to not have jumped too much or i just got lucky.

 

[thusby]

I'm one of those people that took too long to smarten up to Colorados system, I admit it.

 

[Bullshot]

I think there’s something like 3-4000 nonresidents with over 20 elk points in colorado. Only 150 in that group draw tags each year, and not all are in the “top” units. And NR tag quotas will likely be dropping more over time. Who’s gonna blink and apply DOWN before the clock runs out on them is the name of the game in this cohort. Guess we all expect to live to 100 and still he able to pack in / pack out when we finally get there.

 

[shannerdrake]

This year I put in for a Colorado deer tag with 2 more points than is usually necessary (2 points in a 0 point unit). Does anyone else want to admit to being that guy or gal that jumped in with more points than needed and if so what motivated you to do so? In my case, it was just to have a deer tag while on my OTC elk hunt. A buddy has hunted this unit multiple times and usually sees good deer but never gets a deer tag.

I call this insurance.

 

[Shangobango]

Put in for Wyoming pronghorn with 2 points more than it took to draw the unit I applied for last year in the special. I am not at all confident that I will draw the tag.

 

[Buschy]

This year I put in for a Colorado deer tag with 2 more points than is usually necessary (2 points in a 0 point unit). Does anyone else want to admit to being that guy or gal that jumped in with more points than needed and if so what motivated you to do so? In my case, it was just to have a deer tag while on my OTC elk hunt. A buddy has hunted this unit multiple times and usually sees good deer but never gets a deer tag.

I am curious why you feel you need to "admit" to spending PPs you accrued and paid for? It is what it is and you are just playing by the rules set by CPW. Go enjoy yourself, as drawing tags gets harder every single year!

I guess I am supposed to admit/apologize for my extensive contributions to point creep over the last five years (and the next five years). Not going to happen. I got into the PP/BP game early, but others got in before me. I don't begrudge them one bit.