300 Blackout Bolt action, suppressed. Good short range stand gun for my wife/kid?

[jpcoll01]

Will be almost completely silent. No recoil, shots 50 yards or less. Cheap Ruger with threaded barrel for like $599. Am I missing something?

 

[jpcoll01]

Oh and maybe with a red dot or something dead simple on top?

 

[Arcola]

No experience with 300 blackout, but this is exactly why I have a 6.5 Grendel. Very effective from 20-200yds.

 

[mevertsen]

Just keep in mind velocity limitations of the bullet.

My daughter has killed 1 lion, about 135 lbs with a Speer 130 flat point.

This was out of my 10.5 inch pistol.

It worked well.

With what you have in mind, the 110 Barnes, 100 Hammer, 125 Sierra Soft point, 110 Hornady SST would work well.

I presume stand hunting for whitetail?

 

[rogerthat]

Why would it be almost completely silent? Are you planning to use subs?

 

[Waspocrew]

I’m assuming you’re planning on shooting subs? Otherwise, supersonic ammo still has a crack.

300 BLK is a great option for kids, especially if shots are 150 or less.

 

[rogerthat]

I’m assuming you’re planning on shooting subs? Otherwise, supersonic ammo still has a crack.

300 BLK is a great option for kids, especially if shots are 150 or less.

Would you use subs to 150?

 

[Waspocrew]

Would you use subs to 150?

Yep, and that would most likely be my max. I shot a doe at 125 with a 200 gr maker subsonic a couple of weeks back. If you know your ballistics, it’s fine.

Obviously, I’d prefer closer if given the chance.

 

[rogerthat]

Yep, and that would most likely be my max. I shot a doe at 125 with a 200 gr maker subsonic a couple of weeks back. If you know your ballistics, it’s fine.

Obviously, I’d prefer closer if given the chance.

Where do you aim and do you treat it like archery to some extent?

 

[jpcoll01]

I was thinking subs and was thinking 100 absolute max (and honestly none of our stands even offer a 100 yard shot) would treat very much like archery for what I’m talking about.

 

[Waspocrew]

Where do you aim and do you treat it like archery to some extent?

I've seen that mentioned several times regarding hunting with subsonics - some guys prefer to keep shots 50 and in, but I think with enough practice and if you know the ballistics, then 100 or 150 yards is fine. I think the underlying premise of treating like archery is the trajectory. These bullets are moving slow (current load is 1032 fps) and they drop quite a bit. For example: at 150 yards, the bullet drops 7.6 MOA from a 100 yard zero.

My rifle is zeroed at 100 yards. My rangefinder will spit out a correction, so I just dial the correction and aim where I'd like to hit.

 

[rogerthat]

I've seen that mentioned several times regarding hunting with subsonics - some guys prefer to keep shots 50 and in, but I think with enough practice and if you know the ballistics, then 100 or 150 yards is fine. I think the underlying premise of treating like archery is the trajectory. These bullets are moving slow (current load is 1032 fps) and they drop quite a bit. For example: at 150 yards, the bullet drops 7.6 MOA from a 100 yard zero.

My rifle is zeroed at 100 yards. My rangefinder will spit out a correction, so I just dial the correction and aim where I'd like to hit.

I guess I am more referencing the bullet performance and assuming expansion is minimal so more of a penciling through wound. I have also seen where some guys advocate the high shoulder shot to shock the nervous system. I shot a cow elk with a traditional muzzleloader and prb last year and I was surprised how that went. I would assume this is similar?

 

[Waspocrew]

I guess I am more referencing the bullet performance and assuming expansion is minimal so more of a penciling through wound. I have also seen where some guys advocate the high shoulder shot to shock the nervous system. I shot a cow elk with a traditional muzzleloader and prb last year and I was surprised how that went. I would assume this is similar?

Ah gotcha. I still just shoot for the vitals.

With regular projectiles, expansion will be minimal (if any at all). With projectiles designed for subsonic use, like a Maker, Lehigh, Hornady SubX, etc, the expansion is pretty impressive. I didn't find my projectile as it was a complete pass through.

This is what a Maker should do at subsonic velocities:

 

[noharleyyet]

.300 Blackout, Supersonic vs Subsonic

If you're new to .300 blackout, the ability to switch between supersonic and subsonic may be confusing, so let's look at what each bullet is best for.

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