I can’t seem to find any of the older threads covering tire threads. Looking for some new 10 ply’s. Normally go copper st maxx, but they don’t offer them in my size. Have any of you had experience with the Toyo open country at3 or cooper stronghold at? Looking at 275/60/20. Open to other options as well. Wanted to go with Falken at4 but they only offer 8 ply in that size.
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HONEYBADGER
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Have had the Toyos they are a great tire.
I’d like to go that route, but since they only make 8 ply in the size I need I’m pretty sure I’ll be going a different route.
Cap’n Crunch
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Falkens are great IMO! Curious as to the need for 10 ply if you don’t mind me asking.
Redmt
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I picked up a set of "cheapies" for my 96 Powerstroke. Landspiders made in Taiwan were a few hundred bucks cheaper than the popular brands. I have run Coopers for years on my newer Powerstroke. I never had satisfactory performance with the Toyo or Yokohama. You might look at Mastercraft. I think they are made by Cooper.
Eight ply tires are a whole different animal borderline to light SUV tires
Eight ply tires are a whole different animal borderline to light SUV tires
Always run 10 ply on my pickup. Some of the roads I am on garbage. Better to have them an not need them than to need them and not have them.
I did see that as well. If my calculations are correct the falkens would be about 1 mph difference at 80
rjthehunter
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I ran Toyo AT3's one time. Halfway through the life of the tire, they started cupping really badly. I had them warrantied where I bought them and switched back to goodyear wranglers.
CT_SD
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I have Toyo AT3’s on 3 vehicles currently-2 dodge 3500 pickups and an expedition. No issues with any of them.
Load rating E or 10 ply. Doubt I’ve answered the question.
mevertsen
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Load rating E does not necessarily mean there are actually 10 plies in the tire.
Very few have that. Most Es are actually a 7 ply tire. Some have a 3 ply side wall, getting to 8. Very few have 9.
If on lighter truck, the C or SL tires will have the same actual plies, but some videos I've seen suggest they roll with the rocks a little better because of the lower PSI.
If on a 2500 or 3500, then, the stiffer sidewall E rating will help.
npaden
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I've been using BF Goodrich KO2 AT tires for about 15 or 20 years now and I put 20,000 to 25,000 a year on my trucks so that's a lot of tires and they have always done well for me. I got a new set of KO2s right when the KO3s were coming out so haven't tried them yet but every review I've seen on them is positive. Tires have actually come a long way in the last couple decades and I bet most are pretty good.
Redmt
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They have changed the rating, ply, load range, load index, speed range designation so many times it takes a tire engineer to figure it out. My understanding is that when a tire claims to have an actual ply count then that is what it is.
SAJ-99
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Had the Toyos and agree with the other opinions. They are great, but a little more $. Unfortunately, had to get new tires during supply-chain pandemic problems and Toyos were super expensive (and they only had 2 in stock) so went with Sumitomos. I have had no problems with them either, but they are a little noisy.
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I have run my current set of Pro Comp AT Sport tires for the past 2.5 years. I usually run ~15,000-20,000 miles a year. They have held up fantastically! I won't hesitate to order another set when it comes time. I also rotate my tires every 7500 miles like clockwork.
Cap’n Crunch
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In my research and understanding over the years I found that the term “ply” can be a misnomer and lead to over compensation of what really the tire can handle or is needed in a specific application. The load index number is also part of how to determine a tires performance output. Weight loads along with the actual truck weight should really determine the needed tire “ply”.
On a newer 3500 chevy diesel I got 55,000 mi with bfg ko2's, towing moderate loads and mountain driving daily. Still had a few mils before the wear bar but I ran them pretty low. Just got the ko3's and im hoping they perform the same. Ive had good luck with the ko2s on everything from a jeep wrangler to a 1500/2500 ram to the big chevy. Offroad and on snow/ice they have never let me down.
