If you’re not going to be in there hunting in November keep the regular tag. Second tags are not allowed in that unit so don’t bother picking up a leftover tag.
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It’s great you’re getting out early and learning the area. That’s gonna be big benefit. Just knowing the lay of the land and how to get around. Hard to judge bulls this time of year anyway and they will be changing their habits and hang outs between now and hunting season anyway...
Agreed. Randy hit the nail on the head talking about how we need to unite, R & NR, and quit bickering about draws and allocations as much and focus on putting more critters on the landscape.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s all intertwined and important issues.
I tend to get a little pissy when the...
You could be right on the data. I’m just going off numbers they spit out in the meeting.
Either way. It’s a problem, and you are absolutely correct that NR dispersion has to happen.
I just hope they can make it happen (or are willing to)
I completely agree that there too much concentrated NR pressure in certain regions but NR harvest isn’t exceeding R harvest. According to FWP, R7 had the highest NR harvest of 45%. 37% of NR hunt R7, thats 9,990 hunters. Reducing that by even half would be significant improvement.
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Good point.
What offers are you referring to?
I didn’t notice much in that regard but I was listening with a slightly different perspective. I was listening to see if there’s commonality in areas of concern. If there’s unified consensus then developing a solution is viable possibility. If...
Interesting that we have different take aways from it. I understood them to say they didn’t have complete data and that was the reasoning behind the discrepancies between their models and the numbers that came from the limited hunter numbers for example.
There were multiple times where it was...
My point was that during the meeting they said they have plenty of money and budget isn’t a deterrent yet they are not keen on spending money on these other things. (Surveys, etc)
It gives the appearance that there is not much importance placed on gaining better data.
This was one thing I noticed while listening….
They’d comment about hunter surveys being expensive and aerial flights being expensive but then they came right out later and said that the budget is not an issue and that it doesn’t prevent them from conducting any necessary biological work and...
I understand and agree with your point. I’d say that they accurate herd numbers trump most other numbers but it’s important to have complete data if possible.
We’re on the same page.
I disagree. You need both.
How else do you manage the surplus if you don’t know how much of it is being removed? Also, hunter numbers, where, when, is all relevant information. There’s no situation where too much information is going to be a problem.
They have the budget to get all the data...
Without good data (and current data) they don’t know what they are managing.
Think of it as a rancher that doesn’t know how many cattle he has, how many calves are born each year, how many get shipped to slaughter, etc.
Just because he’s always shipped 100 cows out every November must mean...
After listening the day one of the CAC it is glaringly obvious that there is a serious lack of data.
The hunter surveys are not producing much feedback and FWP doesn’t seem interested in mandatory reporting of any kind. They said multiple times that it’s difficult to mandate hunter reporting...