What exactly have I said that is wrong? Where did I make it personal vs arguing a fact or a point?
What I am seeing is frequent snark and smug attitudes generalizing hunters broadly as selfish exclusionists. I disagree with that assessment.
I do a lot more reading than typing, always have...
The two groups cited in the article, Washington Wildlife First, and Wildlife For All, are absolutely extremeists groups who are 100% anti-hunting. They are selling themselves in their slogans as if they are there to represent all these purportodly aggreived outdoor users in wildlife matters...
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Ya, I didn’t attempt to educate you on who DU is. You sure like your red herring fallacies don’t you.
You decided to repond to a comment I made regarding people generalizing hunters as against RAWA and other efforts to “bring others to the table“ by my noting evidence...
Maybe you aren’t familiar with all the groups or the issue bud, see all the LOCAL and National Organizations that supported RAWA and updating PR to make it more inclusive... and you think more hunters oppose this or they only oppose it at the state level? Riiiiight…...
You’re reaching bro and you know it. Two groups I’ve never heard of and a couple of gaggles of people… who opposed it somehow…
How about NWTF, NWS, IWLA, BHA, DU, the list goes on, these are the largest and most diverse hunting organizations in the US.
I will concede there is a perception...
What are you talking about that hunters have screwed over non-hunters? You are echoing a non-sensical theme that the anti-hunting extremists organizations are trying to use to divide hunters from other outdoors users, a unity that has been made closer by much effort over the past few decades...
If a person is anti-hunting, then they shouldn’t be involved in hunting regulations. That should be obvious. There are many other things they can be involved in.
It would be like having people against the death penalty on a board to decide when to use the death penalty. Their vote is...
uh, message boards like this are made up of individual hunters…. So not shocked you or the person you quote has heard this from them.
As I said to antlerradar, you are talking about individuals, not hunters broadly. Again, show me organized hunters who oppose things like RAWA or the backpack...
You are talking about individuals, not hunters broadly. Again, show me organized hunters who oppose things like RAWA or the backpack tax; now compare that to hunting organizations that support them. Now you see why I disagree with the generalizations being put forth on this string about hunters.
Ya, I get that, but this article indicates it wasn’t the town officials that initiated it, it was the adjacent landowner, who as a result has defacto sole access to the public land now.
Ya, I’ve heard that said on message boards, havent actually seen anyone actually take steps to rally people to that cause. I see more hunters, myself included, take steps to push for the backpack tax. I would assume anyone who opposes the “backpack tax“ opposes RAWA for the same reason, but I...
I don’t get where many of you are saying hunters have kept “non-consumptive users” from having a seat at the table. Since when have hunters themselves blocked non-hunters from being involved in wildlife management? For one, hunters have no say in who manages or works for wildlife agencies and...
Well, I guess that’s one good thing about hunting southern California. I rarely see other hunters. Usually don’t even see other hunters at the trailhead.
Very few places I have hunted have cell reception so I’m not so sure what value they would be on a lot of public land. I imagine most are used by people who have land close to home, otherwise an “alert” about an animal isnt going to really an alert. More like it saves one the need to go in and...
I think you are overthinking things a bit much. And hunting as I grew up is anything but luxury and the same applies to many people both in the US but also around the world. Not everyone does it like I do it, and certainly not everyone does it like you do it.
Yes, states could end hunting and...
The regs vary wildly by location, including cell enabled cams vs reg cameras. Same as whether you can set up affixed treestands, blinds, how long, when, what kind, etc…
Fair chase is always brought up in these discussions, whether regarding cell enabled cams, or drones, or apps that share...
Yes, hunting and trapping are tools used by wildlife agencies for the purposes you describe. They are NEEDED tools and the NEED fluctuates by a littany of circumstances.
People also NEED to eat. Hunting has been a way people have fed themselves for thouands of years continuing through today.
Well, they banned mountain lion hunting in California in 1990 (officially) but since then the state has killed or approved the successful killing via depredation permits of close to the same number of mountain lions. So in answer to your question “do we need to kill” x number of animals...