Increasing the impact fee from $13 to $25 would do more to attract people vs just raising the cap. Sounds like both are in play. Not sure where the $$$ is coming from to fund the increase but this is a step in the right direction.
Y'all are barking up in the wrong tree. You really want @Big Fin as a step-dad.....imagine all the Christmas and birthday presents from Leopold, Howa, Yeti, and Sitka! It would be an adopted hunters dream :-)
They were just up there screwing around without any intent on finding sheds. Frankly I'm a little surprised to see antlers on the ground so early in January
This kid....he's my son's best friend....I told a story about his success dropping a beautiful 6x6 elk 2 years ago as a 13 year old.....and now he just found these up in the woods behind our house.
I do want to reinforce what's being said here. There have been statements made by landowners on other threads about weighing leasing vs block. With the Warden pool running so thin, choosing the block program puts onus on the landowner to police his/her land. When choosing to lease, the...
You're probably right, but licenses are about as close as we can get to determining hunter population.....unless someone else has developed something better.
The elk population numbers mirror the numbers I had. The hunter population numbers are vague.....be good to know who they counted. I used the attached report to look at a specific set of licenses trying to hone in on elk hunters.
I used to love hunting that stretch. Coming from Kalispell, the timber finally starts breaking up around Clearwater. I forget how many years ago it was, but FWP got pretty aggressive with the cow permits around Ovando. Lincoln used to have way more elk on public. The big bulls are still in...
From my perspective living on the doorstep to the Bob, I know more people are headed into the Bob unoufitted on their own horses in an attempt to get away from the crowds. With fewer elk available on public land this trend will continue.
It's been said/reported that the FWP target for our elk is 92,000. At a 10 year average of 130,000 (based on my reviewing the 2011-2021 data on FWPs website), one can make the argument that we're 40,000 over the objective. I'm not totally sure where the 175,000 number comes from, but I think...
I think you could expand the searchable data and likely come close to the same conclusions....that we need better access while shifting the licensing model to ratios of game to licenses. To me that model puts the emphasis on the game and everything else feeds off of that.
When managing with ratios, the discussion quickly draws focus on more precisely determining the population. Right now there is a ton of gray....are we counting all elk or just elk that's on public land? Depending on your perspective you can twist the number 6 ways to Sunday. We need to stop...
Here's my thought...
According to FWP's website, the 10 year average elk population in Montana is 130,000 (2011-2021). Lets assume 130,000 is a healthy number and the tools used to measure were consistent over that time. The 2021 elk population is estimated at 141,785, so roughly 8% above the...
Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube so we kinda have to change the container. There are other plusses to the model as well. As the human resident population grows in MT, you'd see increased demand for tags applied against a finite resource. The intersection of those two lines would be...
The exchange of assets gets messy. We all need to just corner cross next fall in hopes one of us goes to court. It's the best place for this decision to get made in MT.
Funding can work much the same way. just apply the desired % of NR to R against the annual budget. If R needs to pick up more of the tab, then NR costs drop.
And I don't disagree with you that R hunters need to increase our contribution. Not sure where the tipping point is in Helena, but...