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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_(United_States)#:~:text=The%20militia%20of%20the%20United,militias%20for%20their%20own%20defense. The militia of the United States, as defined by the U.S. Congress, has changed over time.[1] During colonial America, all able-bodied men of a certain age...
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    What was everyone's meaning of this restriction of government power for the first 180 years? A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    I appreciate your response. I understand what the courts have said and that different groups have tried to restrict gun ownership from certain ethnicities, etc.... Looking at 2A as limiting the power of the government (which it does) it is clear and says it right here: A well regulated...
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    One of the reason I provided so many examples in the last century. 10 million obese people eating fast food every day isn't causality either. But it is a hell of a correlation. Wonder why they didn't do all the genociding when their citizens had guns? Probably just a coincidence.
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    Why are you pro 2A? So maybe the gov will allow you to shoot a deer with a black powder rifle? You do know it is a restriction of the government, right?
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    Let us not be like Yemen. My point was we have outlasted the countless attempted democracies in the last few hundred years that did not have 2A. I stand by it.
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    How can you argue that taking away gun rights does not take away power from the citizens? You can argue the degree but it is dishonest to say that if widget A is armed and then widget B is forcefully unarmed that widget B still has the same power against widget A that they had before.
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    I feel fairly safe in saying that over the last few hundred years democracy has been attempted many times. The only one I know that lasted during that time has 2A.
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    I provided evidence of governments disarming citizens and becoming more tyrannical. Can you provide evidence to the contrary? Are there times when governments taking away gun rights gave their citizens more power?
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    Has a dictatorship ever occurred under a population with anything equivalent to 2A?
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    Do you think a government is more or less likely to act in tyrannical fashion if most of its citizens are armed?
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    Why did they take the guns? Did taking them provide the people more power or the government?
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    Because they can't 100% de-arm all Americans. They have to do it incrementally. It is unsettling the number of sportsman on this thread that are ok with eroding 2A to some degree.. Governments aren't known for taking more power than they should. I too have faith in a representative...
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    The Ottoman Empire 1911 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide Soviet Union 1929 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_the_Soviet_Union China 1935 https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE2.HTM Germany 1939 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust Cambodia 1956...
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    I think we all agree that crazy people should not have guns. If someone is crazy and is a threat to society (with a gun or other type of killing device) they should be in a home for crazy people. The most popular lefty politician the last 2 presidential primaries is a socialist...
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    "hollywood has people convinced they're a badass stuck at a desk job and ARs are the only effective ways to stop government overreach... but I digress." My bad. Not sure how I took your statement to mean anything other than "over" regulation by the government. Using the countries that...
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    Historically have governments had more or less overreach after disarming their citizens?
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    Is this real? Can the "leader of the free world" be this ignorant?
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-control-canada-trudeau-national-freeze-handgun-ownership/
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    A "common sense" proposal that will piss off both sides

    Why would you quote me and then not address my post? My statement was regarding the people of the world that were disarmed by their government and slaughtered by the millions and millions by their government less than a century ago.
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