Less than Sask. This isn’t about stopping it, this is about slowing it. We’ve established that can’t really be done once prevalence rates eclipse 1.8%.
But Colorado, Wyoming bought themselves 20+ years of lower prevalence over Sask by following best management practices including not allowing...
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ND, SD, MT, WY, CO all get bad winters and deal with winter herding. Why would that affect be worse in Sask? If time is the X axis, all of those states did measurably better than Sask. in the same number of years, they dealt with winter herding as well.
Why does...
@Sask hunter I want to make it abundantly clear I’m not attacking you or singling you out. I have nothing against baiting, I simply don’t care from an ethical standpoint.
I appreciate your willingness to weigh in, and I know it’s tough to hear, but I think the many perspectives like yours on...
Precisely. That’s all you guys have done to my knowledge. Some outdated culling a long time ago and some slight increases to hunter harvest (again not much).
No carcass transportation restrictions.
No baiting restrictions.
Basically zero, significant, long term consistent commitment, or...
ND game and fish spends hundreds of thousands of dollars some years on depredation programs to prevent deer from getting clustered up in hay yards and keep them away from silage piles as much as possible.
But I don’t think that picture really makes your point. Like I said, there will be some...
So what best management practices has Sask tried?
Some ineffective culling 20 years ago and some increased hunting pressure that is FAR below any place in the lower 48 to my understanding.
What else?
It’s too late for Sask.
This is just a few photos of the same man placed mineral lick being visited over and over and over and over by wintering deer.
If there’s a positive deer visiting that site and you don’t that’s increasing disease exposure and transmission, you’re outside your mind.
I think it depends on the herding. I would concede that there will be some natural winter herding that leads to natural transmission. No doubt. I don’t disagree with you one bit. Some years it will be worse than others, sure. But let’s think about that.
Winter herding takes place for a couple...
I don’t think there’s any question about baiting increasing exposure and transmission. But I would agree it is curious that mule deer, who generally don’t “hit bait” in the way whitetails do, can still have it worse.
But based on my conversations there seems to be some thought that the reason...
I would agree that Saskatchewans culling efforts 20 years ago were a bit of a mess. Kind of a “spray and pray” method. That did little, and like you say, probably pushed it around more than it helped. But I would say culling these days is no longer like that. Much more controlled and focused...
It’s an interesting dynamic isn’t it? It’s one I’ve had a lot of conversations about.
But I would disagree that mule deer don’t hit “bait”. Certainly, they won’t hit a corn pile like a while tail. But there are plenty of recommendations on hunting forums around which type of minerals to use...
Could this help the corner crossing case? Since it was litigated and the courts got their say instead of just a rule that came down from the USFS or BLM?
I would tend to agree. But the information is useful. Anytime I can put good information out there for reasonable people to see and be aware of, I think it’s worth engaging. Lots of eyes on topics like this 👀
Besides, the ignore button is incredibly useful….
This is a perfect example, thank you for mentioning. Yes, it (and other best management practices) did slow CWD down in Wyoming and Colorado, that is quite clear to even the most casual observer. Though, I’m sure if youre upset about baiting restrictions of some kind, motivated reasoning will...
I think your hard on for private enterprise has distorted your ability to assess the work and the players on this issue. Priogen is a UMN start up, founded by UMN staff, almost entirely made up of UMN staff and is housed in a UMN building.
As for your questions, I’m sure you’ll come up with...
There’s a fundamental difference between scrapie in sheep and CWD in deer.
Codon 171 with two R alleles, or a 171RR sheep is actually resistant. Resistant as in to my knowledge there has never been a documented case of classical (infectious/contagious) scrapie in a 171RR sheep. That was found...
Well, If you’d like I can cite the peer reviewed literature for pretty much everything I’ve said. In cases where the research hasn’t been published yet I have emails/conversations from the researchers themselves.
But I get the feeling that won’t change your attitude, so I’m inclined to think...
I presume you’re talking about the LL gene?
To my understanding, that is not resistant, only less susceptible with a longer incubation period. In the case of Lucky the elk, she was a one off edit: who never contracted it, but both her offspring(who also both had the LL gene), contracted it and...