One last point @sclancy27 why did the late 40s and 50s kick out so many big bucks in Montana?
Agreed but to insinuate buck genetics play no part is pretty hard for me to believe. I had never seen a drop tine buck in my life. In 2015 I found an area that had a drop tine buck. I have now seen...
Not to mention why do private ranch deer owners pay ridiculous amounts for the breeder sires? Why do they care if it’s not genetics? I’m not arguing montieths research(I listen to all the cokslide podcasts) but even they would admit their research is still developing. I will bet money they...
Sean, I’m not buying the habitat=big antlers simply because with the right genetics a whitetail(ranch buck) is over 200 as a 2.5 year old. The same thing happens in the wild. The big ones are big when they are young based on my anecdotal experience. That jives with @antlerradar explanation
You think big antlers are just statistically random? I think big antlers are an expression of that bucks viability. Typically they have big bodies and are the dominant buck.(not always but more likely statistically)
Another positive, the governor of our state traps and hunts. I’m liking that a lot better than what Colorado has going on but I agree the way Loewen went out needs more explanation. Hopefully it wasn’t retaliation as insinuated.
I think I finally understand where you’re coming from @Shed God and the general vicinity of where you hunt. I have spent some days in that general area 20 plus years ago. To me it emphasizes how a single season structure for a state the size of Montana is always going to fall short.
Do the elk not get pushed around with the current season process where you hunt? Honestly trying to wrap my mind around your situation.
Edit: are you killing your mature bulls early or late currently?
Count me in😂. Those are incredible sheds for Montana. I’m not the one you need to convince to go limited entry. Like you my primary focus is big racks. Unfortunately we aren’t the norm.
Don’t you think experienced hunters have some idea what is going to happen when changes are proposed? For example let’s use Colorado pushing their season dates a week later. We knew this was going to make the bigger older more mature bucks more vulnerable to harvest right? And it did.
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General season wyoming units. Guns are a blazing at the deer and the bulls are bugling.
To be accurate, I said he makes assumptions that I THINK are wrong. I stand by that statement. I think he is wrong with his assumptions.
1). Deer hunting pressure does not equal elk hunting pressure...