Wild Horse and Burro Act

[OriginalOscar]

Does anyone know if the Wild Horse and Burro Act could be repealed through Executive Order and management of the horse and burros moved back to the states? Or would that require legislative action?

 

[Big Fin]

Would require Congressional action.

 

[JoseCuervo]

Kind of the whole "checks and balances" thing.

A president cant remove laws passed by congress, and signed by a president.


Despite what the Trumpsters want to abolish from the constitution.

 

[James Riley]

Executive Orders can impact implementation but they cannot repeal legislation. This is a representative democracy, not a dictatorship.

 

[Gr8bawana]

Executive Orders can impact implementation but they cannot repeal legislation. This is a representative democracy, not a dictatorship.

Trump is too stupid to realize he does not have a free hand to do as he pleases like a dictator.I would place him in the anarchist category.

 

[James Riley]

LOL!

In line with my bottomless pit of optimism (rolling eyes), wouldn't it be cool if he was just hanging shiny objects out there to keep the press busy while secretly doing all kinds of great shit behind the scenes? I know, I know: fantasy. But I remember that Saturday Night Live Skit where they had Reagan delegating everything to smart people and acting like a duffus in public while secretly running everything behind the scenes with a high level of executive competence. I used to think they were making fun of Reagan, but I think SNL has a good way of making fun of people like me who are always hoping against hope.

 

[hank4elk]

...and one Congressional Act does not supercede another & must work in conjunction....
Congress needs to go back to a civics class if you ask me.
Maybe spend a week on the Constitution & Bill of Rights. Or just walk down the road and read it.

I really like the plastic fake Emperors symbol behind Drumpf's Royal Decree signings.
Sign away Ray.
Proof of criminal acts on video & in writing work with courts.

 

[Straight Arrow]

Or just walk down the road.

!!!

 

[OriginalOscar]

So I guess we are stuck with over populated herds, negative impact on public lands, negative impact on wildlife, costly periodic roundups, costly long term horse care facilities, and now costly horse contraception trials.

Since this issue only affects a few western states it would be DOA legislation.

 

[Washington Hunter]

Trump is too stupid to realize he does not have a free hand to do as he pleases like a dictator.

I'd be willing to bet he's smarter than you.

 

[onpoint]

"I'd be willing to bet he's smarter than you".

I always wondered who ghost wrote Donald's tweets for him (redundancy for effect)

 

[James Riley]

So I guess we are stuck with over populated herds, negative impact on public lands, negative impact on wildlife, costly periodic roundups, costly long term horse care facilities, and now costly horse contraception trials.

Since this issue only affects a few western states it would be DOA legislation.

Congress can repeal the Act and do pretty much whatever it wants, so long as it is not un-Constitutional. They can even over-ride a POTUS veto if they can muster the votes. There would be nothing un-Constitutional about fixing the problems you talk about. If there are two different acts, then the courts must struggle to read them to work together, or at least not in conflict, but if that is not possible, the more specific and recent will control over the older and more general. But if a new Act expressly repeals a previous Act, then the old is gone.

Long story short, Congress can slaughter every horse in the U.S. if they repeal the WFRHBA and the POTUS signs it or vetoes it and is over-ridden.

P.S. They have to fund it and the Executive would have to carry it out.

 

[James Riley]

I'd be willing to bet he's smarter than you.

Smart is as smart does. Right now my money would be on Gr8bawana. Time will tell.

 

[JoseCuervo]

I'd be willing to bet he's smarter than you.

What makes you think that, in all honesty?


Have you ever read the transcripts of him talking? They truly are gibberish, in every sense.

The WH staff circulated a memo that any communication to him has to be 1 page, with no more than 9 bullet points.

There is absolutely no proof that he has ever read anything he has signed. In fact, there is proof that he hasn't read what he signs.

Watch the signing ceremony after the Sessions swearing in. He truly had no comprehension of what he was signing.

I can be the most presidential person ever, other than possibly the great Abe Lincoln, all right? But I can be the most presidential person. But I may not be able to do the job nearly as well if I do that.

Here is his nonsense on paying for building the wall....

All it is, is we'll be reimbursed at a later date from whatever transaction we make from Mexico. Now, I could wait a year and I could hold off the wall. But I want to build the wall. We have to build the wall. We have to stop drugs from pouring in. We have to stop people from just pouring into our country. We have no idea where they're from. And I campaigned on the wall. And it's very important. But that wall will cost us nothing.

Well, I'd say very simply that they are going to pay for it. I never said they're going to pay from the start. I said Mexico will pay for the wall.

They shouldn't be very worried. They are here illegally. They shouldn't be very worried. I do have a big heart. We're going to take care of everybody. We're going to have a very strong border. We're going to have a very solid border. Where you have great people that are here that have done a good job, they should be far less worried. We'll be coming out with policy on that over the next period of four weeks.

DONALD TRUMP: Well, on the mandate, if you look at the mandate, we had a situation where we were, Anderson Cooper, who’s terrific, by the way, and did a terrific job, but we were talking over each other. Look, I want, we’re going to repeal and replace Obamacare. Obamacare is a total and complete disaster. It’s going to be gone. We’re going to come up with a great healthcare plan, whether it’s healthcare savings accounts, we have a lot of different things. We’re going to get rid of the lines between states, we’re going to have great competitive bidding. But I say all the time, you can call it anything you want. People are not going to die in the middle of the street. People are not going to die on the sidewalk if I’m president, okay?

CHUCK TODD: Well, let me get something definitive from you on this.

DONALD TRUMP: But Chuck, I say that, excuse me, I say that to packed houses with thousands and thousands of people, Republicans mostly, and I get standing ovations. I’m not going to let that happen. If I’m president, we’re not going to have people dying on the streets. So you can call it whatever you want. I don’t call it a mandate, I just say it’s common sense.

CHUCK TODD: No, I understand that. Well, let me ask you this. Do you think that it should be a law that anybody who can afford health insurance has to have it?

DONALD TRUMP: I think, no, I think it’s going to be up to them, okay? I want it to be up to them. But I’m really talking about people that can’t afford it. We’re not going to let people die in squalor because we are Republicans, okay? That’s part of the problem with the Republicans, where somehow they got fed into this horrible position. We’re going to take care of people. But no, people don’t have to have it. We’re going to have great plans, they’re going to be a lot less expensive than Obamacare. They’re going to be private. There are going to be lots of different options. We’re going to have a lot of different options. Right now you have no options. You know why? Because the insurance company controlled Obama because they gave him a lot of money. That’s why you have lines around the states. And you can’t get competitive bidding.

It truly is just word-salad.

 

[onpoint]

I'll take a James Riley salad with the Jose Cuervo sauce please...... Just playin' devils advocate


This wild horse and burro act post got turned into a dog and pony show. Like MTTW in the "1'st they came for the socialists " thread, dumb enough to step into it - guilty as charged.......

 

[Gr8bawana]

I'd be willing to bet he's smarter than you.

All you have to do is listen to him speak without reading a teleprompter to know you would loose your money. Bigly!

 

[JoseCuervo]

All you have to do is listen to him speak without reading a teleprompter to know you would lose your money. Bigly!

Try to read this one.




It really kind of hurts to read. The guy really can't put a coherent thought together.

 

[elkduds]

I'd be willing to bet he's smarter than you.

Say that 3 times, into the mirror.

Your "clarity" may well supersede all the pundits who have tried to explain the minds of tRump voters. You nailed it.


Gentle reminder:
Lose: fail to win, misplace an object.
Loose: opposite of tight, when a dog escapes.

 

[airlocksniffer]

I saw a Vice news piece lately regarding wild horses. Some gal was shooting them birth control darts for population control. I know it's taboo in this country but they should open up hunting for population control. I've never tried horse but I'd venture to guess it can taste pretty good.

 

[Irrelevant]

The way the D's have swooped in to play obstructionists just as the Rs left that position, I doubt much GOOD legislation will come out of this congress, or I fear, any future congress. Marco Rubio (whom I didn't support at the time) had a great floor speech just after the Warners tirade, nothing about taking sides but about genuine debate and respect.

http://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/...ech-rubio-urges-both-parties-to-show-civility