Poacher caught

Hilljackoutlaw

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Fines were not enough, license suspensions were better than I thought they would be.
And he was enough of a pile to post one of them up on the idaho buck and bull report page.
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I hope Fish & Game keeps after these losers & I agree about the fines he probably made more than that selling the bobcat pelts. They should a least have taken all his trapping equipment & fancy bow in that picture. I wonder what the other 25 charges were.
 
Seems like Idaho needs to get with the times in regards to their fines and penalties... shame on the DA for such a lenient plea deal and on the judge for such lenient sentencing
 
that many charges?!?!?! holy smokes. Throw the book at him, an accident or a misunderstanding of rules is one thing, but there is no way this guy is that dumb. Hes been poaching for a very long time, probably learned it from somebody else.
 
13 years of poaching/$1825 fine=$140.38 fine per year
13/100hrs community service=7.69hrs per year to work off
25 misdemeanor counts dropped per plea

...seems like the poacher's lawyer was better at lawyering than the prosecutor was

Seriously. And while they may have revoked his license rights, it’s not like he can’t get a license to go hunting in a neighboring state. Assuming he’s from the Blackfoot area, Utah border is less than a two hour drive away, and Wyoming just over.
 
WTH?
There is no way anyone could interpret a 248 B&C Mule Deer as less than a "Trophy" kill


TITLE 36

FISH AND GAME

CHAPTER 14

GENERAL PENAL PROVISIONS

36-1404. Unlawful killing, possession or waste of wild animals, birds and fish — Reimbursable damages — Schedule — Assessment by magistrates — Installment payments — Default judgments — Disposition of moneys. (a) In addition to the penalties provided for violating any of the provisions of title 36, Idaho Code, any person who pleads guilty, is found guilty of or is convicted of the illegal killing or the illegal possession or illegal waste of game animals or birds or fish shall reimburse the state for each animal so killed or possessed or wasted as follows:

1. Elk, seven hundred fifty dollars ($750) per animal killed, possessed or wasted.

2. Caribou, bighorn sheep, mountain goat, grizzly bear and moose, one thousand five hundred dollars ($1,500) per animal killed, possessed or wasted.

3. Any other species of big game, four hundred dollars ($400) per animal killed, possessed or wasted.

4. Wild turkey and swan, two hundred fifty dollars ($250) per bird killed, possessed or wasted.

5. Sturgeon, two hundred fifty dollars ($250) per fish killed, possessed or wasted.

6. Bull trout, anadromous salmon and steelhead, one hundred fifty dollars ($150) per fish killed, possessed or wasted.

7. Any other game bird, game fish or furbearer, fifty dollars ($50.00) per animal killed, possessed or wasted.

Provided further, that any person who pleads guilty, is found guilty of, or is convicted of illegal killing, illegal possession or illegal waste of a trophy big game animal as defined in section 36-202(h), Idaho Code, shall reimburse the state for each animal so killed, possessed or wasted, as follows:

1. Trophy mule deer: two thousand dollars ($2,000) per animal killed, possessed or wasted;

2. Trophy white-tailed deer: two thousand dollars ($2,000) per animal killed, possessed or wasted;

3. Trophy elk: five thousand dollars ($5,000) per animal killed, possessed or wasted;

4. Trophy bighorn sheep: ten thousand dollars ($10,000) per animal killed, possessed or wasted;

5. Trophy moose: ten thousand dollars ($10,000) per animal killed, possessed or wasted;

6. Trophy mountain goat: ten thousand dollars ($10,000) per animal killed, possessed or wasted;

7. Trophy pronghorn antelope: two thousand dollars ($2,000) per animal killed, possessed or wasted;

8. Trophy caribou: ten thousand dollars ($10,000) per animal killed, possessed or wasted;

9. Trophy grizzly bear: ten thousand dollars ($10,000) per animal killed, possessed or wasted.

For each additional animal of the same category killed, possessed or wasted during any twelve (12) month period, the amount to be reimbursed shall double from the amount for each animal previously illegally killed, possessed or wasted. For example, the reimbursable damages for three (3) elk illegally killed during a twelve (12) month period would be five thousand two hundred fifty dollars ($5,250), calculated as follows: seven hundred fifty dollars ($750) for the first elk; one thousand five hundred dollars ($1,500) for the second elk; and three thousand dollars ($3,000) for the third elk. In the case of three (3) trophy elk illegally killed in a twelve (12) month period, the reimbursable damages would be thirty-five thousand dollars ($35,000) calculated as follows: five thousand dollars ($5,000) for the first elk, ten thousand dollars ($10,000) for the second elk, and twenty thousand dollars ($20,000) for the third elk. Provided however, that wildlife possessing a fifty dollar ($50.00) reimbursement value shall be figured at the same rate per each animal in violation, without compounding.

(b) In every case of a plea of guilty, a finding of guilt or a conviction of unlawfully releasing any fish species into any public body of water in the state, the court before whom the plea of guilty, finding of guilt, or conviction is obtained shall enter judgment ordering the defendant to reimburse the state for the cost of the expenses, not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000), incurred by the state to correct the damage caused by the unlawful release. For purposes of this subsection, "unlawfully releasing any fish species" means a release of any species of live fish, or live eggs thereof, in the state without the permission of the director of the department of fish and game; provided, that no permission is required when fish are being freed from a hook and released at the same time and place where caught or when crayfish are being released from a trap at the same time and place where caught.

(c) In every case of a plea of guilty, a finding of guilt or a conviction, the court before whom such plea of guilty, finding of guilt or conviction is obtained shall enter judgment ordering the defendant to reimburse the state in a sum or sums as hereinbefore set forth including postjudgment interest. If two (2) or more defendants are convicted of the illegal taking, killing or the illegal possession or wasting of the game animal, bird or fish, such judgment shall be declared against them jointly and severally.

(d) The judgment shall fix the manner and time of payment and may permit the defendant to pay the judgment in installments at such times and in such amounts as, in the opinion of the court, the defendant is able to pay. In no event shall any defendant be allowed more than two (2) years from the date judgment is entered to pay the judgment.

(e) A defaulted judgment or any installment payment thereof may be collected by any means authorized for the enforcement of a judgment under the provisions of the Idaho Code.

(f) All courts ordering such judgments of reimbursement shall order such payments to be made to the department, which shall deposit them with the state treasurer, and the treasurer shall place them in the state fish and game account.

(g) The court shall retain jurisdiction over the case. If at any time the defendant is in arrears ninety (90) days or more, the court may revoke the defendant’s hunting, fishing or trapping privileges until the defendant completes payment of the judgment.
 
Every idaho poaching case i have ever read about ends: state spending more money to investigate and prosecute than the fines plus only minor penalty to violator...what a joke, no wonder so many people do it
 
So I live outside blackfoot and the Story behind the 250 inch buck goes like this from reliable sources.
Shot it in the headlights of a truck with an AR15 the night before season opened. Went back next day and got bow picture.

Just a shame
 
For his crimes, Allen was ordered to pay $1825 in fines, restitution, processing fees and court costs and provide 100 hours of community service. His hunting and trapping licenses were both revoked by the court for a period of 9 and 15 years, respectively. While revoked, Allen may not accompany any others into the field who are engaged in hunting or trapping activities.

Da'yum. I'd say justice has been served. No priors? Seems to me if there'd a been priors he'd be doing some serious time. Locals?
 
Not to completely change the subject but are any of us even surprised anymore with how little most of these guys are punished?? When you look at how penalties are handed out in this country and how often violent offenders get off with such lenient punishments is it any wonder that poachers get off so easy when in actuality no one person is being harmed? I mean there are crimes where people are actually being harmed and aren’t getting punishment so how can we expect that a poaching case be taken anymore seriously. Now im
Not saying these guys shouldn’t be punished a lot more but it’s hard to expect that from our justice system when more serious crimes aren’t even prosecuted the same way.
 
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