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The way I read it in a couple of years if your caught with uncoded ammo you are a criminal. If you buy and register their ammo it just makes it easier for them when the time comes to take our guns. I don't understand why I have not heard more about this till now. Anyone here have any info on this??|oo

HB 2833
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1 Be it enacted by the Legislature of the State of Arizona:
2 Section 1. Title 41, chapter 12, article 5, Arizona Revised Statutes,
3 is amended by adding section 41-1772, to read:
4 41-1772. Ammunition coding system database; sale of ammunition;
5 tax; fund; civil penalty; violation; classification;
6 definition
7 A. BEGINNING JANUARY 1, 2009, A MANUFACTURER SHALL CODE ALL HANDGUN
8 AND ASSAULT WEAPON AMMUNITION THAT IS MANUFACTURED OR SOLD IN THIS STATE.
9 THIS SECTION APPLIES TO ALL CALIBERS.
10 B. BEGINNING JANUARY 1, 2011, A PRIVATE CITIZEN OR A RETAIL VENDOR
11 SHALL DISPOSE OF ALL NONCODED AMMUNITION THAT IS OWNED OR HELD BY THE CITIZEN
12 OR VENDOR.
13 C. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL ESTABLISH AND MAINTAIN AN AMMUNITION CODING
14 SYSTEM DATABASE CONTAINING A MANUFACTURER REGISTRY AND A VENDOR REGISTRY.
15 D. A MANUFACTURER SHALL:
16 1. REGISTER WITH THE DEPARTMENT IN A MANNER PRESCRIBED BY THE
17 DEPARTMENT BY RULE.
18 2. MAINTAIN RECORDS ON THE BUSINESS PREMISES FOR AT LEAST SEVEN YEARS
19 CONCERNING ALL SALES, LOANS AND TRANSFERS OF AMMUNITION TO, FROM OR WITHIN
20 THIS STATE.
21 3. ENCODE AMMUNITION PROVIDED FOR RETAIL SALE FOR REGULATED FIREARMS
22 IN A MANNER THAT THE DIRECTOR ESTABLISHES SO THAT:
23 (a) THE BASE OF THE BULLET AND THE INSIDE OF THE CARTRIDGE CASING OF
24 EACH ROUND IN A BOX OF AMMUNITION ARE CODED WITH THE SAME SERIAL NUMBER.
25 (b) EACH SERIAL NUMBER IS ENGRAVED IN SUCH A MANNER THAT IT IS HIGHLY
26 LIKELY TO PERMIT IDENTIFICATION AFTER AMMUNITION DISCHARGE AND BULLET IMPACT.
27 (c) THE OUTSIDE OF EACH BOX OF AMMUNITION IS LABELED WITH THE NAME OF
28 THE MANUFACTURER AND THE SAME SERIAL NUMBER USED ON THE CARTRIDGE CASINGS AND
29 BASES OF BULLETS CONTAINED IN THE BOX.
30 4. PAY THE TAX LEVIED BY SUBSECTION I OF THIS SECTION.
31 E. A MANUFACTURER SHALL NOT LABEL AMMUNITION CONTAINED IN ONE
32 AMMUNITION BOX WITH THE SAME SERIAL NUMBER AS THE AMMUNITION CONTAINED IN
33 ANOTHER AMMUNITION BOX THAT IS PRODUCED BY THE SAME MANUFACTURER.
34 F. A VENDOR SHALL:
35 1. REGISTER WITH THE DEPARTMENT IN A MANNER PRESCRIBED BY THE
36 DEPARTMENT BY RULE.
37 2. RECORD THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IN A FORMAT PRESCRIBED BY THE
38 DEPARTMENT:
39 (a) THE DATE OF THE TRANSACTION.
40 (b) THE NAME OF THE PURCHASER.
41 (c) THE PURCHASER'S DRIVER LICENSE NUMBER OR OTHER GOVERNMENT ISSUED
42 IDENTIFICATION CARD NUMBER.
43 (d) THE DATE OF BIRTH OF THE PURCHASER.
44 (e) THE UNIQUE IDENTIFIER OF ALL HANDGUN AMMUNITION OR BULLETS
45 TRANSFERRED.
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1 (f) ALL OTHER INFORMATION PRESCRIBED BY THE DEPARTMENT.
2 3. MAINTAIN RECORDS ON THE BUSINESS PREMISES FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS
3 AFTER THE DATE OF THE RECORDED PURCHASE.
4 G. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL ESTABLISH THE AMMUNITION CODING SYSTEM
5 DATABASE WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF ANY EXISTING FIREARMS DATABASES.
6 H. ACCESS TO INFORMATION IN THE AMMUNITION CODING SYSTEM DATABASE IS
7 RESERVED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL ONLY RELEASE
8 INFORMATION IN CONNECTION WITH A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.
9 I. A TAX OF ONE-HALF CENT IS LEVIED ON EACH BULLET OR ROUND OF
10 AMMUNITION THAT IS SOLD IN THIS STATE. THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE SHALL
11 COLLECT THE TAX AND DEPOSIT THE TAX, PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 35-146 AND 35-147,
12 IN THE CODED AMMUNITION FUND ESTABLISHED BY SUBSECTION J OF THIS SECTION.
13 J. THE CODED AMMUNITION FUND IS ESTABLISHED CONSISTING OF MONIES
14 DEPOSITED PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION I OF THIS SECTION. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL
15 ADMINISTER THE FUND. SUBJECT TO LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATION, MONIES IN THE
16 FUND SHALL BE USED FOR THE PURPOSE OF ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING THE
17 AMMUNITION CODING SYSTEM DATABASE PRESCRIBED BY THIS SECTION.
18 K. A MANUFACTURER THAT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THIS SECTION IS SUBJECT TO
19 A CIVIL PENALTY OF NOT MORE THAN ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE FIRST
20 VIOLATION, NOT MORE THAN FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A SECOND VIOLATION AND NOT
21 MORE THAN TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR ANY SUBSEQUENT VIOLATION.
22 L. A VENDOR WHO KNOWINGLY FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THIS SECTION OR WHO
23 KNOWINGLY FALSIFIES THE RECORDS REQUIRED TO BE KEPT BY THIS SECTION IS GUILTY
24 OF A CLASS 3 MISDEMEANOR.
25 M. A PERSON WHO KNOWINGLY DESTROYS, OBLITERATES OR OTHERWISE RENDERS
26 UNREADABLE THE CODING REQUIRED BY THIS SECTION IS GUILTY OF A CLASS 3
27 MISDEMEANOR.
28 N. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION, "CODE OR CODED" MEANS A UNIQUE
29 IDENTIFIER THAT HAS BEEN APPLIED BY ETCHING ONTO THE BASE OF A BULLET OR
30 AMMUNITION PROJECTILE.
31 Sec. 2. Requirements for enactment; two-thirds vote
32 Pursuant to article IX, section 22, Constitution of Arizona, this act
33 is effective only on the affirmative vote of at least two-thirds of the
34 members of each house of the legislature and is effective immediately on the
35 signature of the governor or, if the governor vetoes this act, on the
36 subsequent affirmative vote of at least three-fourths of the members of each
37 house of the legislature.
 
It is the same type of bill that has been introduced all over the country. these bills have seldom passed but it's a good idea to write your statehouse and let them know that you are opposed to it. The fact that there is no technology to encode ammunition should tell you what the sponsers are really after.
 
The way I read it in a couple of years if your caught with uncoded ammo you are a criminal. If you buy and register their ammo it just makes it easier for them when the time comes to take our guns. I don't understand why I have not heard more about this till now. Anyone here have any info on this??|oo

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Could you tell me what date it passed the Legislature?

Could you tell me what date it was signed by the Governor?

If neither of those happened, you are just running around spreading false fears....
 
So it's "false" to prepare for or counter upcoming events or actions?

What "upcoming" event are you preparing for???

The text of the bill that he is paranoid about says on Jan 1, 2009.

If the bill has been passed and signed, then it it is "TRUE" to be paranoid about it. But, if it was NOT passed and signed, then it is FALSE to be paranoid about something that WON'T happen on Jan 1, 2009.
 
Thats cool I am sure all the criminals will get right on registering there ammo. Just like they all buy there guns at dealers. LIL
 
The way I read it in a couple of years if your caught with uncoded ammo you are a criminal. If you buy and register their ammo it just makes it easier for them when the time comes to take our guns. I don't understand why I have not heard more about this till now. Anyone here have any info on this??|oo

the bill is old like 2006?, it was never voted on and it was canned with out any cosideration except for the 4 idiots who brought it to the table in az.

there was a topic on this 3 days before you posted the same post on azbasszone that had all the answers why's hows etc etc

Well the sponsors of the bill are as follows

Cloves C. Campbell, Jr. Democrat District 16
David Bradley Democrat District 28
Manuel Alvarez Democrat District 25
Linda Lopez Democrat District 29
Martha Garcia Democrat District 13

It looks like the bill just died in committee. No votes were ever taken.
 
and if it did pass, I suppose the next step would be to blaim the guy whos ammo was stolen and them used in a crime.
Amazing...
 
The same type of long-winded language was also applied to an anti-dove hunting bill proposed by Joe Nation (Dem) out here in California that I fought against. Because they're so enamored by their importance, they actually write the whole thing up as if it was already proposed, voted on and passed. Total waste of time, but out of control egos have no limits and our elected officals never tire of wasting both our time and our money. They only take our freedoms when we let them.
 
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