https://hammerbullets.boards.net/thread/1772/claw-hammer-handgun-bullet-testing mtmuleymtmuley what is the nose design of the hammers they are making? I've seen some that have the nose with 4 grooves length wise from the tip to the crimp line. Report from a local LEO says they create a good wound channel and penetrate real well. Don't recall the brand but they were not hammers.