New Appointment to head BLM?

[bullbugle307]

This is a Republican party like none before.

I agree. That's why I point out it didn't used to be this way. But it has been in my lifetime. Its an ebb and flow with the Rs and the environment. And right now chits flowing in the wrong direction mostly.

 

[Scott85]

We need our own political party we’ll call it the Leopold party.

 

[bobbydean]

There does need to be another political party, perhaps 2.

The existing system has brought to much wealth. power and corruption to the existing parties, both of them.

With the two corrupt parties making the rules, how we get new parties is a mystery.

 

[hossblur]

You guys think to big.

First, simply change your voter affiliation to I.
Vote how you want, but especially in my state, Utah, 90k R or D change to I, suddenly voters aren't taken for granted.

Second. I listened to Randy talking about needing one scalp. One Senator seat can change balance of power. One Senator, especially a "transfer" advocate losing a seat, is Huge. 90% of them aren't true believers. They'd spin on a dime on land issues to retain power.

I believe even simpler. Rob Bishop. Had we gotten together and targeted him, his one seat wouldn't if changed chaimanships, but it would have been a major shot. There are others. We need one scalp. Right now all any of them has to say is "gun ban", or "abortion" and they are safe.

 

[Straight Arrow]

We need our own political party we’ll call it the Leopold party.

Spot on! Much like the aforementioned Teddy Roosevelt as he moved from the Republican Party to his Bull Moose Party.

 

[Straight Arrow]

The existing system has brought to much wealth. power and corruption to the existing parties, both of them.

Agreed, but this thread is about a particular Republican public lands position and public lands "tsar" appointment, constituting a huge threat to public lands, public wildlife, and the hunting legacy ... not about all the other myriad of political problems.

Analogy: If you were an oilman protective of favorite extraction sites on public land and you were conversing on your favorite forum, DrillTalk, when one party or another began replacing oil rigs with large solar arrays and wind farms and appointing public land development tsars ... then you would likely oppose that party, its leadership, and its puppet candidates on the huge "single-issue" lightning rod. (Even if you could agree on other party platform ideology.)

 

[Irrelevant]

I believe even simpler. Rob Bishop. Had we gotten together and targeted him, his one seat wouldn't if changed chaimanships, but it would have been a major shot. There are others. We need one scalp. Right now all any of them has to say is "gun ban", or "abortion" and they are safe.

Pretty hard to beat a guy that gets on the MeatEater podcast and is allowed to spew his skewed ideas for over an hour without any form of cohesive rebuttal or resistance. There is zero chance he'll get unseated until he's found his chosen replacement.

I think it would be a lot easier to find other western targets for your scalp.

An if general summary, this thread is heading the same direction as a dozen others over the last few years. Public lands are simply not at the top of many peoples priority lists for voting, so when you have to pick a side you typically go with the most important issue, even if it's counter to your #2 (or #8) issue.

 

[Gr8bawana]

There does need to be another political party, perhaps 2.

The existing system has brought to much wealth. power and corruption to the existing parties, both of them.

With the two corrupt parties making the rules, how we get new parties is a mystery.

Hmmm...I don't know if something like this would work any better. Look at the jack-wagon they just elected as Prime Minister.

Composition of the House of Commons at the end of the 2015-17 Parliament

Party	Seats
Conservative	330
Labour	229
Scottish National Party	54
Liberal Democrat	9
Democratic Unionist Party	8
Independent	4
Sinn Féin	4
Plaid Cymru	3
Social Democratic & Labour Party	3
Ulster Unionist Party	2
Green Party	1
Speaker	1
UK Independence Party	1
Total number of seats	649

 

[TOGIE]

just a coincidence on timing?

https://kdvr.com/2019/07/29/bureau-plans-83-parcel-oil-gas-lease-sale-in-colorado/

probably a pretty standard sale, nothing out of the ordinary. but it is of note considering the current winds of change in the agency. also of note that it includes sage grouse habitat.

 

[Oak]

just a coincidence on timing?

https://kdvr.com/2019/07/29/bureau-plans-83-parcel-oil-gas-lease-sale-in-colorado/

probably a pretty standard sale, nothing out of the ordinary. but it is of note considering the current winds of change in the agency. also of note that it includes sage grouse habitat.

Yes, coincidental. The comment period for this proposed sale was back in May-June.

 

[Sytes]

Agreed, but this thread is about a particular Republican public lands position and public lands "tsar" appointment, constituting a huge threat to public lands, public wildlife, and the hunting legacy ... not about all the other myriad of political problems.

More and more... The D and R extremes may actually squeeze something out of this quagmire... We hit on it within another thread
https://time.com/5540480/conservation-caucus-green-new-deal/

 

[Trial153]

Unfortunately I don’t see either of our party woes going away anytime soon as long as we continue to allow our government to be a corporate partnership.

 

[Irrelevant]

Unfortunately I don’t see either of our party woes going away anytime soon as long as we continue to allow our government to be a corporate partnership.

Without a reversal of Citizen's United it's only going to get worse.

 

[Trial153]

Without a reversal of Citizen's United it's only going to get worse.

I agree. I think the CU ruling if not corrected will be looked back upon in our history as when the linchpin broke

 

[Southern Elk]

Please contact your elected officials. Here’s a BHA link to do that.

Take Action

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.

www.backcountryhunters.org

 

[Trial153]

Please contact your elected officials. Here’s a BHA link to do that.

Take Action

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.

www.backcountryhunters.org

This same link shares easy on Facebook ect .....get the word out every little bit helps

 

[Schaaf]

Didn’t realize Pendley was also the main attorney arguing against the Badger-Two Medicine protections.

 

[PaulRevere]

https://missoulian.com/news/local/n...898a003.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1

 

[Ben Lamb]

Your form email is a lot easier to ignore than phone calls to the offices of your elected officials.

 

[NYyotekiller]

I just sent out an email to both of my senators. Hopefully they take note of the issue. Never had anything good to say about them but if they take action then I might for the first time.